[Ci4cg-announce] Fwd: How Collective Intelligence Can Create Better Policy & Strategy
Dmitry Sokolov
dmitry.v.sokolov at gmail.com
Tue Apr 18 19:16:34 PDT 2017
Doug,
our communication will not be accurate enough for any decision making if
based on our beliefs only.
What is the proportion between patterns / chaos, or local and random in
our life?
Lack of this knowledge in CI community means lack of systematic and
systemic studies of even it's fundamentals.
In other words, CI community can only believe that their existence is
actually needed, and has to prove it at every locality...
Which is probably fun by itself but waste of the resources of our societies.
General CI is not about defining itself, it's about patterns adapted by
the decision making at their localities.
It's about "collective memory", otherwise fragmented in space and time.
It's about our vision of options developed before us in situations
similar to ours.
It's about distributed decision making, not possible without long-term
"collective memory".
Lack of long-term memory in cognitive sciences is thought as a
pre-condition of learning, and therefore any intelligence itself.
No memory = no learning = no intelligence.
That's how we start going circles in every location, at every forum and
even in this mailing list.
The only reason of going in circles is that's what we actually LOVE
doing. :)
We love talking ABOUT instead of building constructs usable by many in
our future, distant or not.
I have an idea how to make a shift from belief to knowledge: let's think
quantitatively.
What would be a measure to structure / chaos in CI processes?
Can it be half-life of concepts / ideas / mental constructs?
If agreed, what is half-life time of theories and concepts in geology or
medical science, for example?
What is half-life time of processes on a battlefield?
If we think those two cases as "extremes", what is the "distribution" of
half-life time of knowledge in other fields of science and technology,
society and personal life?
Why this kind of knowledge is not readily available for our reuse?
Is it because we have no long-term memory?
Is it because our collective at the very early stages of it's
development? (Some neurolinguists would say, it's of 11 yo kid.)
Why do we keep running away from General CI?
Are we CI researchers and scientists, or adapts of new CI religion?
Cheers,
Dmitry
On 19/04/17 13:41, Doug Schuler wrote:
>
> I also believe (suspect?) that intelligence is always or nearly always
> contextual and situational.
>
> We may be able to concoct some abstract concept of *intelligence" that
> is not context or situational but, to me, that is not where I want to
> spend my time. (at least not a lot of it! I do find the idea
> interesting, even compelling)
>
> — Doug
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 5:58 PM, Dmitry Sokolov
> <dmitry.v.sokolov at gmail.com <mailto:dmitry.v.sokolov at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Doug,
>
> should your message mean that you can't associate yourself with
> Collective Intelligence?
> If you can't who would?
>
> Cheers,
> Dmitry
>
> On 07/04/17 11:26, Doug Schuler wrote:
>> Hi Dmitry,
>>
>> I'm wondering what you mean by "general CI." I have a hard time
>> thinking about intelligence in the absence of an agent.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Dmitry Sokolov
>> <dmitry.v.sokolov at gmail.com <mailto:dmitry.v.sokolov at gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Interesting...
>> The final product is an e-book.
>> Can a book be the best format for CI?
>> How e-book can relate to collective memory?
>> What is a collective memory?
>> What instances of CM are known?
>> Why they are not widely used (for CI purposes too)?
>>
>> Should my questions above mean that CM doesn't exist, and in
>> the best case, we keep talking about Situational CI, i.e. CI
>> fragmented in space and time?
>> Any idea why we keep running away from General CI?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dmitry
>>
>> On 07/04/17 05:02, Marcus Foth wrote:
>>> Dear all
>>>
>>> FYI
>>>
>>> cheers, marcus
>>> Aarhus, DK
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>>>
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>>>> *From: *The MindHive Team <info at mindhive.org
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>>>> *Subject: **How Collective Intelligence Can Create Better
>>>> Policy & Strategy*
>>>> *Date: *6 April 2017 at 3:52:39 am GMT+2
>>>> *To: *<m.foth at qut.edu.au <mailto:m.foth at qut.edu.au>>
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