From lbs at aa.net  Tue Aug  6 22:43:35 1996
From: lbs at aa.net (Lucys)
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 22:43:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Laugh Of The Day - Sun, Aug 04 1996 (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.94.960806224234.15463B-100000@big.aa.net>



  hmmm...which 'phase' is the scn mailing list on?  ;-)
 
--
  Lucy S.                   lbs at aa.net  
  Seattle, Washington  USA

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From comnets at u.washington.edu  Tue Aug  6 10:18:30 1996
From: comnets at u.washington.edu (Douglas Schuler)
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 96 10:18:30 -0700
Subject: community networking -- for profit...
Message-ID: <9608061718.AA09768@saul6.u.washington.edu>


Posted by Richard Lowenberg to commnet...

FYI...


Date: 06 Aug 1996 09:04:57 GMT
From: rl at infozone.telluride.co.us (Richard Lowenberg)
To: communet at elk.uvm.edu
Subject: Fwd: FYI (Surfing today...)

BW0030  AUG 06,1996       4:56  PACIFIC      07:56  EASTERN


( BW)(BTG)(BTGI) BTG Launches Community Networks Unit; Cablevision 
of Loudoun Acquires Equity Interest 

   Business Editors & Computer Writers

   VIENNA, Va.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Aug. 6, 1996--BTG, Inc. (Nasdaq: 
BTGI) has launched a new business unit, Community Networks, 
Incorporated (CNI).  
   The newly formed company will form business relationships with 
established cable operators and others to provide local communities 
with Internet access, specialized intranets, and electronic commerce.
   BTG said the first community to be served by CNI is Loudoun 
County, Virginia, a community of 43,000 households (119,000 
residents) located near Washington, D.C.  Cablevision of Loudoun, a 
subsidiary of Benchmark Communications, provides cable service in the
county.  
   Under the terms of a letter of intent, Cablevision will make an 
equity investment in shares of CNI.  Over the next two years, 
Cablevision also will have the option to purchase up to a maximum of 
20% of CNI's stock.  
   CNI anticipates that service will be available to Cablevision 
subscribers in the first half of 1997.  Among the new services CNI 
plans to offer are: 

   High-speed, affordable access to the Internet, including the 
World Wide Web, E-mail, newsgroups, online games, and access to 
online service providers.  
   Control tools that will help parents monitor e-mail and restrict 
access to inappropriate material on the Internet.  
   Customized community and individual information will be offered 
through community-specific "intranets" with information about local 
government, businesses, schools, and community organizations and 
activities.  For individual subscribers, CNI will develop a 
personalized home page customized for their own personal interests.  

   Max R. Kipfer, vice president and general manager, Cablevision 
of Loudoun, said: "This is a logical extension of our business and 
puts us one step closer to providing our Loudoun County customers 
with the ultimate package of entertainment and information services.
Our high speed cable network will offer Internet access that is 
affordable and easy to use."  
   Leland Phipps, senior vice president, BTG Integration and Network
Systems, said, "The goal of Community Networks is to give people 
relevant information they need for their daily lives about non-profit
organizations, school activities, community events, and local 
businesses.  By partnering with the cable companies that are already 
an integral part of the community, we can make every community an 
Electronic Village."  
   Phipps said BTG developed its community networking products and 
services from its extensive experience in network design and 
information security.  The company designs and develops World Wide 
Web sites on the Internet as well as internal networks or "intranets"
for corporations and government agencies.  "Until now, the Internet 
has not been relevant to most people.  It is a vast collection of 
unorganized data, making it difficult for the average user to find 
specific information.  In addition, access to the graphics-rich World
Wide Web is very slow on home computers connected through telephone 
lines.  CNI solves those problems," Phipps said.  
   CNI offers very high speed access via cable modems, which are 
hundreds of times faster than the telephone modems used for home 
computing.  For consumers, this means faster downloading of the 
multimedia graphic images that make the Internet colorful and 
exciting.  CNI also gives each subscriber a personalized view of the 
Internet, providing highly customized, relevant information based on 
a personal profile of the subscriber.  Each community may have its 
own intranet, bringing online groups with common interests such as 
homeowner associations, civic organizations, school classes, and 
companies doing business in the area.  
   Cablevision of Loudoun is the only franchised cable operator in 
Loudoun County and serves approximately 29,000 customers county-wide.
   BTG provides information technology services and products to 
government and commercial clients.  The company specializes in 
systems engineering, integration and network systems, 
Internet/intranet access and services, custom computer manufacturing,
and the value-added reselling of hardware, software and services.  
The company has more than 900 employees and offices in ten states an 
in Europe.  Additional information on BTG is available on the 
Internet at http://www.btg.com/, by e-mail at info btg.com, or by 
calling 703/556-6518.  Investors contact: John Graham, 703/761-6675,
or by e-mail: investor btg.com.  Editors contact: Theda Parrish, 
703/761-6581 (office), 703/573-8135 (home), or by e-mail: 
tparrish btg.com.  

   --30--mg/sf.   lmm/sf

   CONTACT: BTG, Inc.
             John Graham, 703/761-6675 (Investors)
             E-Mail:  investor btg.com
             Theda Parrish, 703/761-6581 (Editorial)
             E-Mail:  tparrish btg.com 

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From comnets at u.washington.edu  Wed Aug  7 14:37:50 1996
From: comnets at u.washington.edu (Douglas Schuler)
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 96 14:37:50 -0700
Subject: Next Community Computer Centers Meeting - August 15
Message-ID: <9608072137.AA10194@saul6.u.washington.edu>


To:  People interested in community computing centers 
Subject: Next meeting is August 15th

As many of you know we had a very interesting and enthusiastic meeting
last month (July  15) at the Speakeasy to discuss local projects and
how they might relate to the CTCNet (Community Technology Centers
Network) work.  Representatives from about 15 projects attended.  Peter
Miller from CTCNet was in town convening several workshops for HUD's
regional "Neighborhood Networks" conference and he gave a short
presentation on CTCNet and described what it means to be a CTCNet
affiliate.  (PS.  I am still hoping / planning to write up a short
piece on that meeting.  Please send me any information - from notes to
brochures, etc. - that you think might help me put the essay together.
I would like to print the article in the CTCNet and CPSR/Seattle
Newsletters.)

After talking with Mike Apgar of the Speakeasy we decided that we would
is at 2304 2nd (near Bell St.) in Seattle's Belltown neighborhood.
Their phone number is 728-9770.

If you are interested in community computing centers for Seattle please
attend this meeting.  It will be informal -- we plan to take up where
we left off last time.

Thanks!   Hope to see you there.

-- Doug


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From comnets at u.washington.edu  Tue Aug 13 17:48:59 1996
From: comnets at u.washington.edu (Douglas Schuler)
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 96 17:48:59 -0700
Subject: Community Computing Meeting
Message-ID: <9608140048.AA03962@saul6.u.washington.edu>


Meeting Reminder...

Last month, Peter Miller from CTCNet (Community Technology Centers
Network) was in Seattle for HUD's neighborhood network conference.  At
Peter's suggestion we scheduled a meeting at the Speakeasy (on 2nd
Avenue in Seattle's Belltown neighborhood) for which about 20 community
computing advocates attended.  People agreed that it was very
educational and we agreed to schedule another meeting.

The next meeting is on August 15th at 7:00 PM.  The Speakeasy is at
2304 2nd (near Bell St.) in Seattle's Belltown neighborhood.  Their
phone number is 728-9770.

Please come prepared to give a BRIEF discussion of your project and
some thoughts on how you might like to collaborate with others.  It
would be very useful if everybody would bring 15 - 20 textual
descriptions or brochures that describe their project, their ideas,
their thoughts on collaboration, and their contact information.

We will also discuss becoming CTCNet affiliates.

If you are interested in community computing centers for Seattle please
attend this meeting.  It will be informal -- we plan to take up where
we left off last time.

Thanks!   Hope to see you there.

-- Doug


(PS.  I am still hoping / planning to write up a short piece on that
meeting.  Please bring me information - including notes and/or
brochures, etc. - that you think might help me write a descriptive
essay.  I would like to print the article in the CTCNet and
CPSR/Seattle Newsletters.)
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From dltooley at speakeasy.org  Sat Aug 24 20:00:12 1996
From: dltooley at speakeasy.org (Doug Tooley)
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 20:00:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Un-Campaign For SCN Board, Un-Position Statement (apologies for , cross post)
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.93.960824194058.16819H-100000@eve.speakeasy.org>


Hi all-

I have given a great deal of though as to whether to run for the SCN
Board.  For a number of reasons I have decided not to, the relevant ones I
do wish to share with you here.  Many of these comments were made under a
different context before the coordinating board, comments to which I have
not to date received a **direct** response.

************

SCN is about helping Democracy to function better through good
communications.  Due a number of reasons we are failing at this mission at
this time.  Though we maintain basic operations we are losing IPs right
and left and very few of them that I am aware of have had successful
communications efforts using our system.

This effort is a difficult one, we are in many respects writing the book
on the technical and interpersonal aspects of this tool, and doing so in
one of the toughest managerial environments, open public involvement.
Further our leadership structures have been in constant transition and to
some extent are fractured.

Much of this has resulted in various 'office' politic moves to maintain
one's position in an organization that is cared about deeply.  Some of the
most inappropriate of these actions come from those that are unfortunately
doing some of the quietest and most needed work here.

If we are to be supportive of democracy we must believe in the free
exchange of ideas.

My experience with this organization has been characterized unfortunately
by a series of personal attacks of varying forms by those that disagree
with some of the ideas that I seek to espouse or have generally become
tied up in the scn volunteer bureaucracy.  These have unfortunately
continued to escalate by a variety of bureaucratic opportunists.

For these reasons I believe it best to stay off the SCN board while it
continues to develop it's own leadership structure in support of our
'constitution'.  In office politic this would mean my resignation from the
firm, however this is not office politic, it is democracy politic and I
will continue to stay involved actively as a member of this community
constructively critizing the leadership structure as it builds and
strengthens itself into a functioning unit in support of our mission. 

If I can get a way with it I will adopt an attitude of a former president
of SCN-A as much as possible, hopefully though Doug Schuler and Aki
Namioka will keep this particular form of Senior Statesmanship filled.

SCN is a great effort folks, but do realize that we need to pick up
**every stitch**, there are a lot of them, and that there is, bar none, no
harder task.

God Speed


Douglas Tooley


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From comnets at u.washington.edu  Fri Aug 30 12:13:43 1996
From: comnets at u.washington.edu (Douglas Schuler)
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 96 12:13:43 -0700
Subject: Results from SCNA Election
Message-ID: <9608301913.AA22614@saul6.u.washington.edu>



As {former} SCNA secretary I am happy to announce the
results of the board election at the first annual meeting
of the Seattle Community Network Association.

Congratulations to the following people who were elected to the Seattle
Community Network Association Board.

3 year terms
------------
Randy Groves
Aki Namioka
Doug Schuler

2 year terms
------------
Nancy Kunitsugu
Lorraine Pozzi
Tom Sparks

1 year term
-----------
Stefani Banerian
Carlos Cruz
James Russell

These nine people will be choosing up to six additional
special board members and will be electing officers (a 
president, secretary, and treasurer).

The transition from a CPSR project to an independent SCNA
organization and from a Coordinating Council governed organization
to a board of directors governed organization will probably
be the most important near term tasks.

This a new beginning for all of us!

-- Doug

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From dltooley at speakeasy.org  Sat Aug 31 09:46:47 1996
From: dltooley at speakeasy.org (Doug Tooley)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 09:46:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Results from SCNA Election
In-Reply-To: <9608301913.AA22614@saul6.u.washington.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.93.960831094616.4234K-100000@eve.speakeasy.org>


Doug-

Could you please provide a breakdown of proxy vs. meeting votes.

Thanks.

-Doug

On Fri, 30 Aug 1996, Douglas Schuler wrote:

> 
> 
> As {former} SCNA secretary I am happy to announce the
> results of the board election at the first annual meeting
> of the Seattle Community Network Association.
> 
> Congratulations to the following people who were elected to the Seattle
> Community Network Association Board.
> 
> 3 year terms
> ------------
> Randy Groves
> Aki Namioka
> Doug Schuler
> 
> 2 year terms
> ------------
> Nancy Kunitsugu
> Lorraine Pozzi
> Tom Sparks
> 
> 1 year term
> -----------
> Stefani Banerian
> Carlos Cruz
> James Russell
> 
> These nine people will be choosing up to six additional
> special board members and will be electing officers (a 
> president, secretary, and treasurer).
> 
> The transition from a CPSR project to an independent SCNA
> organization and from a Coordinating Council governed organization
> to a board of directors governed organization will probably
> be the most important near term tasks.
> 
> This a new beginning for all of us!
> 
> -- Doug
> 
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From nancyk at scn.org  Sat Aug 31 15:58:21 1996
From: nancyk at scn.org (NancyK)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 15:58:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Results from SCNA Election
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.93.960831094616.4234K-100000@eve.speakeasy.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.94.960831155152.497E-100000@scn>

Hi Doug,

I think I can answer that for you:  The proxy votes *only* pertained to
the approval of the Restated Articles of Incorporation - *not* to the
election of officers.  SCNA members were required to attend the meeting if
they wished to place their votes for the board.

Hope that clarifies things,
Nancy

On Sat, 31 Aug 1996, Doug Tooley wrote:

> Doug-
> 
> Could you please provide a breakdown of proxy vs. meeting votes.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -Doug
> 
> On Fri, 30 Aug 1996, Douglas Schuler wrote:
> 
> > 
> > As {former} SCNA secretary I am happy to announce the
> > results of the board election at the first annual meeting
> > of the Seattle Community Network Association.
> > 
> > Congratulations to the following people who were elected to the Seattle
> > Community Network Association Board.
> > 
> > 3 year terms
> > ------------
> > Randy Groves
> > Aki Namioka
> > Doug Schuler
> > 
> > 2 year terms
> > ------------
> > Nancy Kunitsugu
> > Lorraine Pozzi
> > Tom Sparks
> > 
> > 1 year term
> > -----------
> > Stefani Banerian
> > Carlos Cruz
> > James Russell
> > 
> > These nine people will be choosing up to six additional
> > special board members and will be electing officers (a 
> > president, secretary, and treasurer).
> > 
> > The transition from a CPSR project to an independent SCNA
> > organization and from a Coordinating Council governed organization
> > to a board of directors governed organization will probably
> > be the most important near term tasks.
> > 
> > This a new beginning for all of us!
> > 
> > -- Doug
> 


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From randy at scn.org  Sat Aug 31 16:16:17 1996
From: randy at scn.org (Randy Groves)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 16:16:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Results from SCNA Election
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.93.960831094616.4234K-100000@eve.speakeasy.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.94.960831161424.6739A-100000@scn4.scn.org>

There is no breakdown.  The notice that we sent out specifically stated
that the proxy was for the purpose of approving the Articles of
Incorporation ONLY, not for the purpose of voting for the officers.  I
don't think there was any ambiguity here.

Unless you were referring to the breakdown for the Articles approval ...

-randy

On Sat, 31 Aug 1996, Doug Tooley wrote:

> 
> Doug-
> 
> Could you please provide a breakdown of proxy vs. meeting votes.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -Doug
> 
> On Fri, 30 Aug 1996, Douglas Schuler wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > As {former} SCNA secretary I am happy to announce the
> > results of the board election at the first annual meeting
> > of the Seattle Community Network Association.
> > 
> > Congratulations to the following people who were elected to the Seattle
> > Community Network Association Board.
> > 
> > 3 year terms
> > ------------
> > Randy Groves
> > Aki Namioka
> > Doug Schuler
> > 
> > 2 year terms
> > ------------
> > Nancy Kunitsugu
> > Lorraine Pozzi
> > Tom Sparks
> > 
> > 1 year term
> > -----------
> > Stefani Banerian
> > Carlos Cruz
> > James Russell
> > 
> > These nine people will be choosing up to six additional
> > special board members and will be electing officers (a 
> > president, secretary, and treasurer).
> > 
> > The transition from a CPSR project to an independent SCNA
> > organization and from a Coordinating Council governed organization
> > to a board of directors governed organization will probably
> > be the most important near term tasks.
> > 
> > This a new beginning for all of us!
> > 
> > -- Doug
> > 
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