From dltooley at scn.org Fri Mar 1 08:10:47 1996 From: dltooley at scn.org (Douglas Tooley) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 08:10:47 -0800 Subject: Hotwired - LAWSUIT: How to Join CIEC Message-ID: <199603011610.IAA23371@scn.org> This looks good - In a previous article, tomh at cyberzine.org (Tom Hicks) says: >Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 17:25:27 -0800 (PST) >To: telstar at wired.com >From: telstar at wired.com (--Todd Lappin-->) >Subject: LAWSUIT: How to Join CIEC > > >I've received several requests during the last few days from Net users who >want to join the CIEC lawsuit as members of the Citizens Internet >Empowerment Coalition. > >As a result, I've attached the text of the "How you can join the CIEC >Court >Challenge " Web site in this message. > >One important note: Registration to join the court challenge can ONLY be >completed on the Web. For organizational reasons, registration via email >is NOT possible. (Sorry about that.) > >To register, go to: http://www.cdt.org/ciec/ > >Also, please remember that registration ends on March 15. Better hurry. > >Over 1850 Internet Users have joined the suit as of 11:00 AM on 2/28/96. > >Spread the word! > >--Todd Lappin--> >Section Editor >WIRED Magazine > >========================================================= > >Protect Free Speech Online -- Join the CIEC Court Challenge > >http://www.cdt.org/ciec/ > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >What is the Citizens Internet Empowerment Coalition? > >The Citizens Internet Empowerment Coalition (CIEC - pronounced "seek") is >a >coalition of Internet users, businesses, non-profit organizations and >civil >liberties advocates formed to challenge the constitutionality of the >Communications Decency Act because they believe it violates their free >speech rights and condments the Internet to a future of burdensome >censorship and government intrusion. > >** How Can I Help Protect the Internet and the Future of Free Speech in >the >Information Age? > >You can participate in a landmark effort that will determine the fate of >the Internet and the future of free expression in the Information Age. >Every user of the Internet is a content provider under the Communications >Decency Act (CDA) and could be subject to fines and prison sentences under >the new law. If you post messages to an open listserv, Usenet newsgroups, >participate in IRC or chat sessi ons, or maintain your own personal Web >Page, ftp or gopher archive, you may be subject to fines up to $250,000 or >2 years in prison under the CDA if someone, somewhere, finds the material >you post to be "indecent" or 'patently offensive". > >If you are concerned about the impact of the Communications Decency Act, >you can join the fight to overturn it. Join the CIEC today! (the deadline >for joining is March 15, 1996) > >** Instructions for Joining the CIEC > >Joining the CIEC as an individual Internet user is a simple as filling out >a form on the CIEC Web page. Individual CIEC members will also be invited >to join a private listserv for announcements and status reports on the >progress of the case. > >** Statement of CIEC Principals > >(This is the statement that you are, in effect, signing by joining the >suit.) > >As an individual user of the of the Internet, I join the Citizens Internet >Empowerment Coalition to challenge the Communications Decency Act because >I >believe in: > >-- Promoting the continued development of the Internet as a forum for the >free exchange of valuable information and ideas. > >-- Promoting the ability of parents and other individual users to >supervise >and assist their children in accessing the wealth of information resouces >available on this global communications medium, free from government >censorship. > >As an individual user of the Internet, I am subject to the restrictions >imposed by the Communications Decency Act. While it is clear that I am >subject to criminal penalties under this law, I neither understand what >materials would be illegal nor how I can avoid prosecution. I believe that >the CDA will restrict my rights to free speech under the United States >Constitution and destroy the Internet as a viable means of free >expression, >education, and commerce. > >(Please Note: For legal purposes, you must provide your name and a valid >snail mail address in order to join the coalition. Forms submitted without >an address will not be processed. Please be sure to read the Terms And >Conditions/Privacy Policy below.) > > >** Terms and Conditions/Privacy Policy: > >The Information collected will not be used for any purpose other than >printing a list of Citizens Internet Empowerment Coalition members in >official court documents and other filings by the CIEC. It will not be >reused, sold, rented, loaned, or available for use for any other purpose. >It is possible in defending the constitutionality of the CDA, the >government may request a complete list of the names and addresses of >coalition members. >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >For More Information, send email to ciec at cdt.org > >### >_________________________________________________________ > ____ > / \__ > |\ / @ \ / Tom and Sparky > \ \_______| \ .:|> > \ ##| | \__/ Sparky the WWW guard dog > | ####\__/ \ > / / ## \| Barking back with technology! > / /__________\ \ > \ \ \__\_ >Washington State Free Speech Center >http://www.cyberzine.org/html/Speech/speechpage.html >__________________________________________________________ > > > -- "Know any Good Lawyer Jokes?" * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn END From kv9x at scn.org Sun Mar 3 13:46:46 1996 From: kv9x at scn.org (Brian High) Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 13:46:46 -0800 Subject: !! DEMO: Wireless Internet Technology !! Message-ID: <199603032146.NAA03909@scn.org> <> ******************************************************************* !! DEMO: Wireless Internet Technology !! ******************************************************************* HTML Version of this posting: http://www.scn.org/IP/nwqrp/gateway.html ******************************************************************* WHERE? Hardware/Software Meeting: 2-4pm on Sat. March 16, 1996 at the Shoreline King County Library Branch. The meeting is open to the public. BY WHOM? Seattle-area amateur radio operators BRIEF EXPLANATION: A group of SCN volunteers and users, who are also amateur radio operators, will be demonstrating a technology which *may* be utilized by SCN to provide an alternative means to access SCN and also to aid the development of an important public service . DETAILS: Amateur radio operators from the King County Amateur Radio Emergency Service (K.C. A.R.E.S.) and a few other local groups will bring a portable system capable of 9600 bps TCP/IP networking over radio to the next Hardware/Software meeting. Following the demonstration, we will discuss the feasibility of connecting a radio-internet gateway to the SCN equipment. If it appears that no significant technical problems exist, the radio operators will propose the project to be discussed and voted on by SCN/SCNA at the next General Meeting. BACKGROUND: Now that the general public is increasingly using the internet to satisfy personal and community information needs, it makes sense to increase our access options. One way is through amateur radio. In recent years, amateur radio licenses have become very easy to obtain, and are granted to people of all ages. Further, technological developments have made it possible to assemble a portable digital amateur radio station for around $300 (used). The Puget Sound TCP/IP Users Group has created an effective system of local area networks (LANs), including 4 digital repeaters and one experimental internet gateway. The experimental gateway works fairly well when it is "up", but it is not reliable enough to be utilized for regular and emergency internet traffic. It is the goal of the demonstrators to eventually establish a stable gateway, providing dependable service for both routine and emergency use. WANT TO KNOW MORE? Please address questions and comments to: kv9x at scn.org (Brian High) You can call (206)782-2827 or (206)271-4657 to reach BBSs which are connected to the Puget Sound TCP/IP (radio) network. These are operated by individual amateur radio operators free of charge. Please respect their wishes concerning the use of their systems. Also see: http://www.scn.org/IP/nwqrp/gateway.html --Brian High, NorthWest QRP Club kv9x at scn.org nwqrp at scn.org -- ******************** Brian High ******************** * INTERNET: kv9x at scn.org PACKET: kv9x at kv9x.ampr.org * ******************************************************** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn END From wheels at scn.org Sat Mar 9 09:00:44 1996 From: wheels at scn.org (Kevin Higgins) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 09:00:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: Volunteers wanted for SCN table at UW Computer Fair - Wed & Thurs. Message-ID: SCN is again having a table at the UW Computer Fair on Wednesday & Thursday (March 13 & 14) for the fourth consecutive year. Last year we passed out over 2,000 brochures at the Fair. We have a couple of volunteers signed up for all times, but it would be nice to have 4-5 people around to talk with people, wander around the fair and support Tom Sparks when he gives his presentation on how community groups can information on the Web. The fair runs from 10 to 8 on Wednesday and from 9 to 5 on Thursday. If you are interested in coming to the Fair and have some time, please stop by the SCN booth to talk with others about SCN and help pass out brochures. I hope to see you there! Thanks, -Kevin Higgins --- wheels at scn.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn END From chanh at scn.org Sat Mar 9 21:45:10 1996 From: chanh at scn.org (Chanh Ong) Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 21:45:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: Volunteers wanted for SCN table at UW Computer Fair - Wed & Thurs. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I will be there, count me in! ------------------------------------------------------------------ ^ Chanh Ong (SCN) ^^^ Home of Mount Rainier Seattle, Washington ------------------------------------------------------------------ On Sat, 9 Mar 1996, Kevin Higgins wrote: > > SCN is again having a table at the UW Computer Fair on Wednesday > & Thursday (March 13 & 14) for the fourth consecutive year. Last year we > passed out over 2,000 brochures at the Fair. We have a couple of > volunteers signed up for all times, but it would be nice to have 4-5 > people around to talk with people, wander around the fair and support Tom > Sparks when he gives his presentation on how community groups can > information on the Web. > The fair runs from 10 to 8 on Wednesday and from 9 to 5 on > Thursday. If you are interested in coming to the Fair and have some > time, please stop by the SCN booth to talk with others about SCN and > help pass out brochures. > > I hope to see you there! > > Thanks, > > -Kevin Higgins --- wheels at scn.org > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * > . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: > majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: > unsubscribe services > END > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn END From dltooley at speakeasy.org Tue Mar 12 14:32:03 1996 From: dltooley at speakeasy.org (Doug Tooley) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 14:32:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: MarketPlace Web Page Launch Date - Wednesday 3/13/96 Message-ID: The MarketPlace group of the Seattle Community Network is pleased to announce the 'beta' release of their Community Resource Point (CRP) for Seattle and Puget Sound area businesses. Developed from the 'public' principles of the Seattle Community Network the site should provide an evolutionary step in the maturation of public internet resources. The 'open standards' for the page were based in part on procedures developed within the Seattle Community Network and are also influenced by usenet voting procedures. The URL for the site is: www.scn.org/ip/marketplace/ Check it out! For information about submitting the URL for your business page see the SCN Business Services Section linked to the above home page. ************* Don't miss Tom Sparks, SCN Webmaster, at the UW Computer Fair. 7:00 HUB Auditorium Wednesday March 13 ************* For more information about MarketPlace e-mail the author of this message or join our e-mail list. To subscribe send e-mail to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message include the text: subscribe marketplace ************** SCN MarketPlace Group, sponsors of Seattle.Business, and Webmasters for the SCN Business pages. ************** Douglas Tooley SCN MarketPlace Online Editor dltooley at speakeasy.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn END From bg717 at scn.org Sun Mar 24 05:32:43 1996 From: bg717 at scn.org (SCN User) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 05:32:43 -0800 Subject: Verbal spanking Message-ID: <199603241332.FAA10421@scn.org> The last time I was logged on to your system, I accidently selected a very long file to download. When I realized what was happening, I aborted the download. I immediately got a "5 minute" message and attempted to exit, but got no response from the server. I tried several times to exit with no response. Since I thought I was over time, I hung up. The next time I tried to log on I got an EXTREMELY rude verbal spanking during the log-on that I did NOT deserve! I think you folks need to listen to a little piece of advice: GROW UP A LITTLE! Don't automatically assume (ass-u-me) that a patron is a child and give them a juvenile, asinine tongue- lashing when it MAY be your own system that is at fault! "Promise"????? OH COME ON! Anyway, a more professional approach is definitely warranted if you want to continue to grow and expand. Now that I've got that off my chest, I'm going to try to recover my sense of humor and hope we can continue a good relationship. yours sincerely, Mike Kristofferson (bg717) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn END From randy at scn.org Mon Mar 25 12:40:32 1996 From: randy at scn.org (Randy Groves) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 12:40:32 -0800 Subject: Verbal spanking Message-ID: I'm copying this response to Mike to the scn list - seeing as he posted the complaint so widely. I'm sorry if you found the rather intense reminder at logon to be rude. We have only limited space available for users to store their files, and some people are much less attentive to the logon messages than you seem to be, so we have to 'get in their face' a bit, just to make sure that they see the message, and to be just obnoxious enough to make people WANT to delete their extraneous files. If you can think of a better way to 'control' people without establishing hard quotas - which would eat up significant system resources, please let us know. -randy >The last time I was logged on to your system, I accidently >selected a very long file to download. When I realized what was >happening, I aborted the download. I immediately got a "5 >minute" message and attempted to exit, but got no response from >the server. I tried several times to exit with no response. >Since I thought I was over time, I hung up. > >The next time I tried to log on I got an EXTREMELY rude verbal >spanking during the log-on that I did NOT deserve! > >I think you folks need to listen to a little piece of advice: >GROW UP A LITTLE! Don't automatically assume (ass-u-me) that a >patron is a child and give them a juvenile, asinine tongue- >lashing when it MAY be your own system that is at fault! >"Promise"????? OH COME ON! > >Anyway, a more professional approach is definitely warranted if >you want to continue to grow and expand. > >Now that I've got that off my chest, I'm going to try to recover >my sense of humor and hope we can continue a good relationship. > >yours sincerely, > >Mike Kristofferson (bg717) > >* * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * >. To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: >majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: >unsubscribe scn >END * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn END From jrodgers at windowware.com Mon Mar 25 13:04:56 1996 From: jrodgers at windowware.com (Joe Rodgers) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 13:04:56 -0800 Subject: Verbal spanking References: Message-ID: <31570A78.21D3@windowware.com> I wonder if this even needs amplifying. I don't think it's fair to try to put the burden on bg717, to tell scn how to better handle ettiquette; He sees room for improvement on this one system message- is this worth getting defensive over? ||||||| Randy Groves wrote: VVVVVVV > If you can think of a better way to 'control' > people without establishing hard quotas - which would eat up significant > system resources, please let us know. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn END From anamioka at redwood.rt.cs.boeing.com Tue Mar 26 17:00:08 1996 From: anamioka at redwood.rt.cs.boeing.com (Aki Namioka) Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 17:00:08 -0800 Subject: Changing Jobs Message-ID: <9603270100.AA15954@mashel.rt.cs.boeing.com> Dear Friends, Family, and other Net Acquaintances: After 7 years at Boeing I am leaving for Bluer pastures. My last day at Boeing is March 29th. If you are sending me e-mail at an address that contains the string "boeing" it will not work after April 1st. Please use the following instead: aki at scn.org. Thanks, Aki * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn END