From dltooley at speakeasy.org Thu Oct 3 18:11:50 1996 From: dltooley at speakeasy.org (Doug Tooley) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 18:11:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: The library board (fwd) Message-ID: In the spirit of Aki's **appropriate** advertisement/posting regarding the ACLU I offer for your enjoyment: SNC SEATTLE NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION 731 NORTH 87TH SEATTLE WA. 98103 1-206-784-7217 VOICE/FAX e-mail - kammerer at aa.net. Library Board: The Seattle Neighborhood Coalition is deeply concerned with the manner in which the Mayor utilized the Library Board to dismiss Liz Stroup from service. (See attached list of questions.) Our membership has therefore expressed "no confidence" in the existing Library Board, its President, the Mayor, George Corcoran and Associates and Acting City Librarian Craig Buthod. We believe the current Library Board's actions may ultimately result in organized opposition to proposed future library bond issues and thus their likely failure. We believe the political nature of the City Librarian's dismissal will negatively affect the search for a qualified replacement. The Seattle Neighborhood Coalition calls for: � The City Council to request the resignation of the Library Board. � The immediate resignation of Acting City Librarian Craig Buthod. � The City Council to generate a list of candidates from which the Mayor can select appointments for a new Board. � The City Council to insure broad community representation in board appointees. � That a nation-wide search for a Library Director be conducted by a new Board. At a time in our history when trust in government has become a national concern, the actions of the Library Board demonstrate all too clearly why the public has lost faith in the process of governance. It is particularly unsettling when we view the state law that created a Library Board as a safeguard to insulate our public libraries and their directors from political manipulation. We treasure and trust our libraries as the keeper of ideas upon which we form public opinion. That trust has been violated. SUPPLEMENTARY ISSUES QUESTIONS: THE SEATTLE NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION BELIEVES THAT RCW 27.12 IS CLEAR IN ITS INTENT TO INSULATE LIBRARIES FROM POLITICAL MANIPULATION. WE BELIEVE THE CITY COUNCIL CAN, IF THEY CHOOSE, USE THEIR REMOVAL POWERS UNDER RCW 27.12 IN SEEKING ANSWERS TO ALLEGATIONS CONCERNING THE POLITICAL ASPECTS OF THE LIBRARY BOARD'S ACTIONS. We therefore call upon the City Council to initiate public hearings and use their authority to investigate issues relating to the dismissal of City Librarian Liz Stroup. We believe the following are but a few of the questions that require complete and truthful answers. � Who and what prompted the Board action to seek a performance review of the City Librarian? � What communication existed between the Mayor, his staff, and the Library Board? � Upon whose recommendation was Corcoran and Associates selected for the review process? � Did the firm of Corcoran and Associates and Corcoran himself, donate a total of $1500 to the Rice Campaign? � Has Jim Ellis played a role to pre-empt or supersede the library site selection process, by proposing downtown library locations to enhance building developments other than the public library? � Has Craig Buthod met privately with members of the Mayor's staff or the Library Board, to discuss the City Librarian's performance? � In Corcoran's report to the Library Board, some senior staff members reported the City Librarian was deficient in certain management skills. Were not some of those same staff members responsible for the management areas they found the director deficient in; ie.. long range planning, budget review and analysis, personnel assignment, etc. ? � Are any members of the Library Board associated directly or indirectly with firms who receive fees from City business or who place orders for the sale of public financing bonds? Kent Kammerer President, Seattle Neighborhood Coalition * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn END From randy at scn.org Thu Oct 3 09:13:09 1996 From: randy at scn.org (Randy Groves) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:13:09 -0700 Subject: A sad occurrence. Message-ID: I don't know how many of you might have known, but this weekend a member of the Seattle Public Library computing staff was killed in a freak auto accident. All of the computing staff at the library have been very supportive and helpful over the years, and Norman was no exception. Just this last Saturday, he assisted us in system maintenance. Later that evening, he was driving a limo as a favor to a friend, got a call from another friend that was stuck by the side of the road with car trouble, and stopped there to help out. A police car was already on the scene, lights flashing. While Norman and the others at the scene were standing near the cars, a car driven by a suspected drunk driver (I presume that they have determined whether he was or not by now - this info is as of the article in the paper) smashed into the parked cars. All were injured, Norman most seriously - and he died an hour later at the hospital. This just sickens me. Norman was a fantastically nice guy. I didn't know him other than working with him in the library, but from that experience, and what was said about him in the paper, it's just criminal. I've been thinking over the last few days about something that we could do. Perhaps a donation to MADD in his name? He had lost both his parents only a few years ago, and I don't know if he has any other relatives (no siblings - he was an only child). I haven't gotten hold of Jim Taylor yet - perhaps he would have some ideas as to an appropriate response. Suggestions? -randy * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn END From namioka at netcom.com Fri Oct 4 08:37:33 1996 From: namioka at netcom.com (Aki Namioka) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 08:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: A sad occurrence. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Wow - this is incredibly sad. I remember reading about it in the newspaper, but I didn't know him personally. I think the donation to MADD or some other similar organization is a great idea. Since we don't know if he has close family, I guess a condolence letter would be difficult. However, we could send one to the library, perhaps via Yvonne or Jim. Randy, could you write such a letter on behalf of the SCNA board since you probably know him the best? Thanks, Aki * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn END From kadams at spl.lib.wa.us Fri Oct 4 12:10:34 1996 From: kadams at spl.lib.wa.us (Kirk Adams) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 12:10:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: interest in conference Message-ID: HI, I forwarded the recent message about an upcoming conference on virtual communities to another list and have two interested people, if someone could get back to: Johnathan Stutz jstutz at microsoft.com and, Robin Adams radams at u.washington.edu Thanks Kirk * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn END From comnets at u.washington.edu Fri Oct 4 12:53:37 1996 From: comnets at u.washington.edu (Douglas Schuler) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 12:53:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Community Space & Cyberspace Conference Message-ID: <199610041953.MAA31229@saul6.u.washington.edu> Excuse me again... I either (a) left the date off; or (b) put the date on wrong, for the Community Space & Cyberspace Conference that CPSR is having in Seattle next year... March 1 & March 2. A Saturday and Sunday. Thanks! -- Doug CS&C Web site = http://www.scn.org/tech/diac-97 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn END From alboss at wolfenet.com Fri Oct 4 14:33:47 1996 From: alboss at wolfenet.com (Albert W. Boss) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 14:33:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: A sad occurrence. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I didn't know Norman, but like Aki, I read the article and was really affected by it. Let's do what we can. I'd be willing to make a cash donation, but I can't help wondering if, as a community network, there's more we can do. I like the idea of working with MADD, too; they were my first thought. If the local chapter doesn't have a web site, can we work with them to create one on SCN? Can we get the Times' permission to reproduce the story and photos on it? Can we start a memorial donation fund (or find one, if it's already been started by his friends--he had no family), and make sure we have donation information on the site? (Maybe MADD National has a secure site for on-line credit card donations for those brave enough to try it, or maybe First Virtual or someone would donate one.) Just rambling. I don't want to continue this thread across all four mailing groups forever. It sounds like there's sufficient interest to do something. I guess we need to: * figure out what kind of something * figure out who wants to be the lead people * if it takes a lot of discussion, figure out the best forum Al * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn END From janossz at scn.org Fri Oct 4 20:48:19 1996 From: janossz at scn.org (Janos Szablya) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 20:48:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: A sad occurrence. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Might we consider donating some computer books to the library in his name? Janos * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn END From er-chan at scn.org Sat Oct 5 00:13:41 1996 From: er-chan at scn.org (SCN User) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 00:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: A sad occurrence. Message-ID: <199610050713.AAA13126@scn.org> Maybe we could , in addition to other things, have a webpage in his memory, commemorating his life and accomplishments, with photo * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn END From kurt at grogatch.seaslug.org Sat Oct 5 10:51:05 1996 From: kurt at grogatch.seaslug.org (Kurt Cockrum) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 10:51:05 -0700 Subject: A sad occurrence. Message-ID: <199610051751.KAA17141@grogatch.seaslug.org> In-Reply-To: <199610050713.AAA13126 at scn.org> er-chan at scn.org said: > Maybe we could , in addition to other things, have a webpage >in his memory, commemorating his life and accomplishments, with photo With all due respect to all involved, I think people are getting a little overzealous about this. This is stuff best left up to the deceased's family and actual, on-the-floor colleagues, and others who had way closer relations with him than the SCN collectivity. --kurt * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn END From nancyk at scn.org Sun Oct 6 22:28:09 1996 From: nancyk at scn.org (NancyK) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 22:28:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: CPSR newsletter mailing list? Message-ID: Hi, If you are not currently receiving the CPSR newsletter (which includes the SCN Access column) and would like to, please drop me a note with your name and address -- including your zip code. Same goes for address changes... Thanks, Nancy * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn END From mascott at scn.org Tue Oct 8 11:21:37 1996 From: mascott at scn.org (A. R. 'Bob' Mascott) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 11:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: A novel donation! Message-ID: We received the following message and a check for $48.40 and I just felt that you should be aware of the nice things like this. Bob Mascott - mascott at scn.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Tom Kuhl participated in our 'TOPS' (The Odd Plant Sale) sale this last weekend (Sept. 7th & 8th) at Sky Nursery. We had it set up so that 20% of his gross sales would go to his favorite club and he chose yours. Our weekend sale was a great success and Sky Nursery invited us back next year. Hopefully, Tom will join us once again. Cornelia Remy Cascade Cactus & Succulent Society * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn END From jimh at scn.org Fri Oct 11 13:59:18 1996 From: jimh at scn.org (Jim Horton) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 13:59:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: We're havin' a party! Message-ID: It seemed like it was time, so we're going to have a Celebrate SCNA Meet the Board 10,000 users Just 'cause we want to ... Party. About all we have set right now is the date, Saturday, November 16. That doesn't give us a lot of time to get ready. Nancy K and I are going to put together some initial plans, but some input from everyone else could help us narrow some of our choices. To start... Are you interested in, or would you come to an SCN party on Nov 16? Rate the following as important to you: 1. Availability of beer and/or wine 2. Availability of food (munchies or dinner) 3. A band (suggestions? either specific band or style of music) Are you willing to help put on the party? Do you have any suggestions for where we can have it? Please send your answers to me or Nancy (nancyk at scn.org) as soon as possible to help us scope this thing. thanks, Jim -- Jim Horton jimh at scn.org Seattle Community Network * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn END