From root at scn.org Mon Dec 1 13:28:32 1997 From: root at scn.org (System Administrator) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 13:28:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: Mail loop. Message-ID: SCN System Administration An explanation of why you were inundated with mail: the 'vacation' message of a City of Seattle user responded to Doug's message. And (apparently some feature of CCmail) to everyone cc'ed on that message. And was then cc'ed back to that user. Which then responded, to everyone, including that user, which then responded.... We had no way of shutting this off from our end, and were not able to find anyone at the City over the weekend, so we disabled the various lists it was going to. (Which dumped _hundreds_ of messages on the list owners, which happend to be SCNA Board members, so complaints are not necessary. They know about it already.) The lists were restored at 1 PM today, and we hope everything is okay. Any legitimate messages sent to these lists before that were probably lost; you may want to resend them. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn END From steve at accessone.com Thu Dec 4 12:27:52 1997 From: steve at accessone.com (Steve Hoffman) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 13:27:52 -0700 Subject: Linux Message-ID: <199712042128.NAA22815@accessone.com> Thought the hardware folks might appreciate this - -----Forwarded Message----- On the side of the software box, in the System Requirements section, it said "Requires Windows 95 or better." So I installed Linux. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn END From jmabel at saltmine.com Tue Dec 9 11:53:35 1997 From: jmabel at saltmine.com (Joe Mabel) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:53:35 -0800 Subject: FW: Another tactic for dealing with spam Message-ID: <01BD0499.1530F7C0@stockade.saltmine.com> (Excerpted) -----Original Message----- From: Dan Tenenbaum [SMTP:dante at saltmine.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 1997 11:05 AM To: 'all' Subject: Another tactic for dealing with spam From: DeTroyes The Federal Trade Commission has set up an anti-spam taskforce, and is inviting people to forward to them any email they suspect of being illegal. The address is: uce at ftc.gov Also, for those who wish to learn more about such, there is the Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email (CAUCE), which has a web presence at: www.cauce.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn END From steve at accessone.com Sat Dec 13 07:47:43 1997 From: steve at accessone.com (Steve Hoffman) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 08:47:43 -0700 Subject: Cheap computer stuff Message-ID: <199712131648.IAA05489@accessone.com> Sorry, meant to post this sooner - there's a computer swap meet in Kent today (Sat 12/13) from 9 to 5 @ Kent Commons, 525 4th Ave N. ...Steve * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn END From ivygreen at scn.org Mon Dec 15 09:30:41 1997 From: ivygreen at scn.org (SCN User) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 09:30:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: \ Message-ID: <199712151730.JAA17824@scn.org> I wrote two posts last night, and was unable to post either because something was wrong. They're in my work directory. Now what? I still do NOT see any CLEAR directions on which keys to hit to SEND these to the forums! Why is this so difficult? This bbs is harder than any I've ever encountered, when it comes to this "work directory" business. I don't have or know how to use an "offline mail reader." Why doesn't the system simply SEND posts that we've marked SEND? * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn END From steve at accessone.com Wed Dec 24 11:17:35 1997 From: steve at accessone.com (Steve Hoffman) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 12:17:35 -0700 Subject: Libraries & filtering software Message-ID: <199712242018.MAA22765@accessone.com> Suit Against Library May Test Free Speech Rights NY Times 12/24/97 A new lawsuit that accuses a public library system of violating adults' First Amendment rights when it restricts their access to the Internet could represent the next big battle in the war over free speech in cyberspace. Earlier this week, 11 individuals joined a group called Mainstream Loudoun to file a federal lawsuit aimed at blocking a two month old Internet usage policy in the public library system of Loudoun County in Virginia. The policy, among other things, requires that the library's public computers, including those used by adults, be equipped with filtering software that prevents viewing of material that is obscene, contains child pornography or that is harmful to minors under Virginia statutes. The suit says that this is an infringement of the free speech rights of adults, especially because the blocking software used has prevented access to legitimate material, not just sexually explicit sites. Defenders of the policy counter that tax dollars should not be used to pay for access to pornography, especially when that material could prompt accusations of sexual harassment from library employees or patrons who happen to view and be offended by the material. Whoever is right, the lawsuit is the first to raise the question of whether public libraries, as government entities, engage in impermissible censorship when they seek to limit what an adult can view in the wide-ranging world of the Internet. It is also the first major Internet free speech case to be filed since the United States Supreme Court, in its landmark Reno v. ACLU decision issued last June, struck down as unconstitutional a federal law that sought to restrict arguably indecent material online. "I think the Loudoun County case is very significant," said Ann Beeson, a lawyer for the American Civil Liberties Union and a member of the team of attorneys who fought the indecency provisions of that federal law, the Communications Decency Act. "This issue is the most important free speech battle we will fight in the wake of Reno v. ACLU." The case was filed in the Federal District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia in Alexandria. Although it is the first of its type, it might not be the last, as libraries all over the country begin trying to figure out how to introduce the Internet. In the past, the physical limitations of bookshelf space have given librarians a practical reason for to restrict their acquisitions. But the boundless Internet provides no such excuse, and the material contained within in it, everything from AIDS information to hard-core pornography to sites about religion, foreign policy and hobbies, is bound to contain something offensive to someone. Beeson said the ACLU was closely monitoring the library policies in several states, and could launch a suit of its own. In addition, she said, the group might seek to intervene in the Loudoun County case to represent the interests of online publishers. The federal court in Alexandria, nicknamed the "rocket docket" because of its reputation for handling cases with dispatch, is likely to begin handling the case early in 1998. The battle centers on an Internet policy, passed by the board of the Loudoun County Library on Oct. 20, that the trustees said was necessary to protect employees and patrons from sexual harassment. Among other things, the policy required the use of filtering software to prevent users from viewing sexually explicit material that could, it was argued, be viewed by others who would be so offended by the material that they would argue they had been subject to sexual harassment. According to the complaint filed in court, however, the filtering software being used in Loudoun , a product called X-STOP, has also blocked access to an array of legitimate material, including sites put up by the American Association of University Women, the Society of Friends and publishers of the AIDS Quilt site. Furthermore, the suit says, the plaintiffs object to an aspect of the policy that apparently has resulted in terminals being placed in areas where they can be seen by people other than the Internet surfer. Among the plaintiffs is a technical writer with breast cancer. The library policy harms her, according to the complaint, "by denying her full access to valuable information that she would like to obtain and by the lack of privacy of having terminals placed out in the open without privacy screens which inhibits her ability to view sensitive medical and other material." Lawrence S. Ottinger, one of the lawyers in the case and staff counsel for People for the American Way, a free speech organization, said the policy is a clear violation of the First Amendment because it prevents adults from reaching material to which they have a constitutional right. "The policy is very overbroad in that it would deny access to patrons of a substantial amount of constitutionally protected, valuable material," he said. "It amounts to reducing adults to the electronic equivalent of the children's reading room." Ottinger dismissed the sexual harassment argument as "a trumped-up rationale" that trivializes what he characterized as true harassment caused by an employer. "It's hard to see how a patron, not an employer, could harass a librarian," he said. A call to Douglas Henderson, director of library services for Loudoun County, was referred yesterday to the Loudoun County attorney, John R. Roberts. Efforts to reach Roberts were unsuccessful. But a supporter of the law, Bruce A. Taylor, president and chief counsel of the National Law Center for Children and Families in Fairfax, Va., called the lawsuit "frivolous" and said that the blocking software would give plaintiffs access to any legitimate material they wanted. "On the facts, this case covers a narrow issue: whether a library can provide Internet services to the public without giving access to pornography," he said. "It would be a sad day for a court to say anybody can demand that a library give them whatever they want." Taylor said that if libraries are prevented from using filtering software, they might not choose to carry the Internet at all. "It is an infringement on the rights of the people in Loudoun and their board members to have someone come in and demand that their tax dollars be used to buy someone pornography," he said. The president of the company that makes X-STOP conceded that the software had, indeed, at times blocked access to inoffensive sites. But, Michael S. Bradshaw, president of the company, Log-On Data Corp. in Anaheim, Calif., said that these were blunders that, once pointed out, were corrected. "We never said we don't make mistakes," he said. "But to make such a hullabaloo about a site or two? Why doesn't the librarian just unblock the site?" * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn END From namioka at netcom.com Wed Dec 24 13:42:51 1997 From: namioka at netcom.com (Aki Namioka) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 13:42:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: "One Planet, One Net." CPSR focuses on Internet Governance (fwd) Message-ID: FYI - governance at the local level is part of the scope of this program. I am going to try and put together the framework for a Community Network policy toolkit if anybody wants to send me suggestions to topic areas or resources. Thanks, Aki ---------- Forwarded message ---------- CPSR's Board has launched a year-long focus on Internet governance. As a result of an intensive strategic planning process, CPSR is undertaking a broad examination of the issues in standards development, content development and control, and access to the Internet. CPSR will continue our policy advocacy on issues such as proposed changes to the Domain Name System (DNS). We will continue to monitor and defend privacy issues. CPSR was involved in direct government advocacy and testimony in the recent encryption legislation and in the struggle over online ratings systems. We participated at all levels in the Communications Decency Act legislative process and as a co- plaintiff in Reno v. ACLU. CPSR is focusing our main program initiative for the next year to strengthen citizen input in the Internet governance dialogue now dominated by the government and business sectors. % As a first step, the Board developed and issued "One Planet, One Net: Principles for the Internet Era." This is an internet- draft document in the IETF publication process. % Discussion of the draft will be about basic Internet issues - - who owns it? what values will prevail? who will have access? who will decide how it is governed? Participation in the discussion is through the CPSR listserv at onenet-discuss at cpsr.org. We strongly urge CPSR members and others interested in Internet governance issues to join in the discussion. % CPSR will develop a series of fact-sheets, white papers, and online discussion lists about these principles. % We will assist our twenty-four Chapters in developing educational and advocacy programs to broaden the discussion in the communities. % CPSR will convene an international symposium on Internet Governance in Boston in October 1998 to bring the best thinking to these issues and develop a clear plan for action. CPSR is uniquely qualified to lead this inquiry. We have the expertise in our membership to explore the issues honestly and to provide well-reasoned assessment. We have the experience in tackling large and complex technology issues --Star Wars and the National Information Infrastructure. And we have the energy in our Board and members to complete this challenging task. Every 1998 issue of CPSR's Newsletter will contain in-depth discussion of the many aspects of the "One Planet, One Net" initiative. Please visit CPSR's website http://www.cpsr.org for more information about this exciting and challenging examination of the public's interest in the basic structure of Internet governance and control. Duff Axsom * Executive Director http://www.cpsr.org Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility P.O. Box 717 * Palo Alto * CA * 94302 Phone: (650) 322-3778 * Fax: (650) 322-4748 * Email: duff at cpsr.org To join OneNet-Discuss, write to listserv at cpsr.org with the message Subscribe OneNet-Discuss (your name). To join CPSR, write to cpsr-info at cpsr.org for a membership brochure and form. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn END From steve at accessone.com Mon Dec 29 09:42:06 1997 From: steve at accessone.com (Steve Hoffman) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 09:42:06 -0800 Subject: Ain't it the truth.... Message-ID: <199712291742.JAA04132@accessone.com> What Detroit Can Teach Silicon Valley PATRICK L. ANDERSON WSJ 12/29/97 My father-in-law's 1989 Buick still toils in the San Jose, Calif., sun, with 130,000 miles on its odometer. While I was visiting him recently, we had it repaired at a corner gas station. Meanwhile, his 1993 personal computer sits almost unusable, ready for the scrap heap. No hardware or software manufacturer will repair it. Who better satisfies the customer, the computer industry or the auto industry? The future of Silicon Valley will depend heavily on the answer. A computer engineer might be tempted to scoff at the comparison between a car and a PC, noting the rapid technological advances in computers. Indeed, rapid obsolescence alone may be a sign of progress, if the newer models provide substantial new functionality, better reliability, ease of use and repair, and lower costs. Newer PC's do indeed have two of these features--better functions and lower costs--but their reliability and ease of use and repair still lag woefully behind that of almost every other common consumer and business product. In a context of poor customer service, technology alone cannot carry a company very far. I had a state-of-the art Intel motherboard--the chassis of a PC--turn up defective not long ago. I pored over the manual, looked at the board itself and explored Intel's Internet site, and found not a single phone number for customers to call. Indeed, it took a personal letter to Intel's chief operating officer to generate a sheepish call from an engineer, who pronounced that production run obsolete and unrepairable: no warranty, no replacement, no satisfaction for the customer. If a major automaker had the same problem, it would have recalled all the models sold and repaired them free. Retelling the tale to a senior engineer at a large chip maker produced the explanation: "We just don't understand end users." In case you don't read the fine print of those license agreements that accompany software, "end users" is valley-speak for you and me. In the rest of the world, especially Detroit, we call them "customers." Another senior engineer explained that, with all the components that go into a PC, you just can't expect the manufacturer of one component to stand behind it with the end user. Tell that to the automakers that put together thousands of parts from around the world and then warranty them all to work together for three years, in all kinds of weather, at 70 miles an hour. Even that comparison understates the difference in baseline customer satisfaction between the two industries. Almost any adult can step into any car sold today and competently drive it across the state. By contrast, most adults--even sophisticated, computer-literate folks--are frequently baffled by their PCs, and are made to feel stupid by the attendant technobabble. It's no coincidence that the most popular PC books go by names like "Windows for Dummies." Detroit doesn't sell books like "Oldsmobiles for Idiots" or "A Foul-Up's Guide to Fords." Not understanding your "end users" is, in the long term, a death sentence for any business. While the glamour and power of new technology will capture some of the marketplace, it cannot and will not replace customer satisfaction. Detroit relearned this lesson--the hard way--in the 1980s. With Japanese producers gaining advantages in both quality and cost, General Motors, Ford and Chrysler faced a crisis. Warranty costs loomed large, and younger customers began favoring made-in-Japan cars over their parents' "Detroit iron." The key to the American auto industry's turnaround did not lie in technology. New robots in new factories couldn't save GM, but a renewed focus on customers, quality and disciplined management--the same focus that sustained the industry through World War II--did. Today, U.S. manufacturers produce the best cars and trucks in the world in most classes. Nobody in Detroit calls drivers "end users," and nobody survives the withering competition by not understanding them. If the history of the automobile industry is a guide, the computer companies that back up good technology with much-improved service will prosper. Right now, the most successful PC manufacturers--Dell, Gateway, and Compaq--are all outside California. Gateway even flashes its humble Midwestern background with offbeat cow-patterned boxes and goofy ads. What will happen when these brands become more recognizable than the components Silicon Valley's technological wizards produce? New technology will simply be adopted by the winning companies, just as antilock brakes, front wheel drive, fuel injection, low-emission engines, and other technological innovations are now featured on automobiles of every major make. But unless Silicon Valley companies begin paying attention to their customers, they will fall behind the companies that do. There is much to admire in Silicon Valley: its entrepreneurial culture, its tolerance, its astounding path of innovation that has enriched us all. But unless its companies match innovation with superior attention to customers, the happy times cannot last. In the long run, the customer always wins. Mr. Anderson is president of Anderson Economic Group, a consulting firm in Lansing, Mich., that has worked for clients in the auto industry. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn END From namioka at netcom.com Mon Dec 29 16:24:08 1997 From: namioka at netcom.com (Aki Namioka) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 16:24:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: Benton foundation Message-ID: some great stuff from the Benton Foundation (again).... - Aki -------------------------------------------------- Dear Friends and Colleagues, I want to alert you to the newly expanded "Best Practices Toolkit" compiled by the Benton Foundation's Communications Policy and Practice program. This area of Benton's web site is intended to provide you with tips and tools for better using Internet technology to promote your nonprofit's goals. The toolkit is broken down into the following categories: * Top Recommendations * Web pages with great tools for nonprofits * Nonprofit-related electronic newsletters * Nonprofit-related discussions lists * Technology Funding for Nonprofits * Fundraising on the Internet * Nonprofit Technical Assistance Providers * Papers & Books I include below a sampling of what's available on the site. If you would like to receive regular updates informing you about new items on the page (subsequent updates will be much shorter than this first introduction), please reply to this message. I appreciate any feedback you have on the Best Practices Toolkit, and hope you will find it helpful. Sincerely, Jillaine Smith Senior Associate Benton Foundation The following is best read in a nonproportional font like Courier 10. Best Practices Toolkit: A Sampling as of 12/29/97 Please see (http://www.benton.org/Practice/Toolkit) for the complete= list. Top Recommendations * 20/20 Vision's Activist Toolkit (http://www.2020vision.org/tools) includes a simple, "how to" course in letter writing or making a phone call to a key policy maker; a guide for contacting and influencing the United States Government Administration branch; a series focusing on writing Op-Ed pieces and Letters to the Editor, and having a voice in Talk Radio; and "Using Cyberspace: Activism Online." * Designing Effective Action Alerts for the Internet (http://weber.ucsd.edu/~pagre/alerts.html). Well-designed action alerts are a powerful way to invite people to participate in the processes of a democracy. UCSD Communication Department professor and long-time Internet-using activist Phil Agre provides these excellent guidelines.=20 * While One Northwest's (http://www.onenw.org) focus is on helping environmental organizations in the northwest, they have compiled an impressive collection of tools (http://www.onenw.org/html/ea.shtml) to help nonprofit organizations make better use of communications technologies, including computer and modem recommendations, and what to consider when selecting an Internet provider.=20 -------------------------------------------------------------- Web sites with great nonprofit tools * Coyote Communications Technology Tip Sheets (http://www.webcom.com/jac/tips.html) for nonprofit organizations, including "Basic Customer Database Principles," "The Internet Starter Kit for Nonprofits," "How Nonprofits are REALLY Using Online Technologies," and much more. Also check out their "How to promote your nonprofit organization online". * Media / PR Advice Online. These three sites offer a variety of media advice: Media Relations Inc. (http://www.publicity.com) on handling interviews; Communications Skills Institute (http://www.csitucson.com/) on getting press by doing survey's; and Netrageous Inc. (http://www.netrageous.com/pr) offers useful case studies. * Ontario Prevention Clearinghouse Electronic Publishing Guidelines (http://www.opc.on.ca/opc/pubguide.html), prepared for their internal use, but shared with the rest of the online world. A great checklist of activities to consider when involving your organization in electronic publishing. -------------------------------------------------------------- Nonprofit-related electronic newsletters * Philanthropy Journal Online has a wonderful technology section (http://www.philanthropy-journal.org/tech/tech.htm) housing its many articles on how nonprofits are making use of the Internet. * Tech News: Enhancing Human Services through Technology (http://www.uwnyc.org/tech.htm), written for human service organizations, contains many wonderful articles that any nonprofit organization can use in their efforts to better apply computer technologies. Also available in print format. * WebActive (http://www.webactive.com) can send you email updates to its excellent site that highlights nonprofits on the Internet. Send email to webactive at prognet.com, with sign me up! in the "Subject:" header. -------------------------------------------------------------- Nonprofit-related electronic discussions lists Where ever you see "YourFirstName" and "YourLastName," replace your real first and last names, respectively. * Communet-L is where community networking advocates discuss challenges, policy, and lessons learned. To subscribe, send email to LISTSERV at LIST.UVM.EDU that contains the following message: subscribe communet YourFirstName YourLastName. * On NetAction Notes, you can discuss with other advocacy organizations how to use the Internet for effective organizing and coalition-building. To subscribe send email to majordomo at netaction.org with the following message: subscribe netaction. -------------------------------------------------------------- Technology Funding for Nonprofits * The Conservation Technology Support Program (http://www.desktop.org/ctsp) is an annual grant program providing in-kind assistance to conservation organizations making use of geographic information systems. =20 * Environmental Support Center (http://www.envsc.org). If your organization devotes at least a portion of its resources to environmental concerns and is in need of training for staff or board, consider applying to the Environmental Support Center (ESC) for assistance. Local, regional and state organizations are eligible. ESC will partially subsidize the cost of training/technical support up to $2,000 per calendar year. Deadline to apply: 15th of each month. For more information, call (202) 966-9834, or visit their website.=20 =20 * The Hitachi Foundation has a new funding initiative that is looking for projects using information technologies to improve and advance teaching and learning. Open to educational and community-based organizations. Get the details by sending a self-addressed, stamped envelope to The Role of Information Technology in Education, Hitachi Foundation, 1509 22nd Street NW, Washington DC 20037. Faxed copies are available by calling (202) 457-0588, ex 551. =20 -------------------------------------------------------------- Fundraising on the Internet * Jeff Hallett wrote a series of excellent articles that appeared in Philanthropy Journal about nonprofit use of the Internet for fundraising and other activities: =20 o Why the Web will Increase Giving - Eventually (http://www.philanthropy-journal.org/tech/hallett697.htm) o Build relationships; then raise money (http://www.philanthropy-journal.org/tech/hallett2797.htm) o Performance-driven Web Sites (http://www.philanthropy-journal.org/tech/hallett30997.htm) o Does the Web help-- or hurt-- fundraising for nonprofits (http://www.philanthropy-journal.org/tech/hallett40997.htm) * Fundraising on the Internet (http://www.fundraising.igc.org), a print and electronic guide to using the Internet as a fundraising tool. * The Internet Prospector (plains.uwyo.edu/~prospect) is a site for nonprofit fundraising efforts, focused on using the Internet to find money. For example, see their review of Corporate Giving web sites (plains.uwyo.edu/~prospect/corp-giv.html). -------------------------------------------------------------- Papers & Books * A Greater Voice: Nonprofit Organizations, Communications Technology, and Advocacy (http://www.ncna.org/communications/publications.html), a survey report of attitudes toward, experiences with, and expectations of communications technology in the nonprofit sector, published by the National Council of Nonprofit Associations. $10. * Making the Net Work: Online Strategies for Community-Based Organizations is an excellent book written NCExchange's Terry Grunwald, a long-time advocate for online networking. Written completely for the nonprofit audience, this book includes practical information about how to incorporate electronic networking into your organization, and an excellent (although lengthy) assessment process that your organization can do without paying a high-priced firm or consultant. The cost is $20 for nonprofit organizations and can be ordered online at http://www.ncexchange.org/guideorder.html. * NetActivism: How Citizens Use the Internet written by Ed Schwartz (an experienced net advocate) and published by O'Reilly & Associates, one of the best books on the market that easily and clearly explains the benefits and pitfalls of using the Internet as an organizing and advocacy tool. You can order this book at Amazon at: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=3D1565921607 ------------------------------------------------------------ =A9 Benton Foundation ph:202-638-5770 fax:202-638-5771 email: benton at benton.org WWW: www.benton.org www.benton.org/Practice/Toolkit/ Last updated: 29 December 1997 jss * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn END From bh668 at scn.org Mon Dec 29 20:09:38 1997 From: bh668 at scn.org (SCN User) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 20:09:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: schedule and rental Message-ID: <199712300409.UAA17273@scn.org> To all at SCN, Happy Solstice and a Good New Year to you. As many of you know, I will be out of town for January and February and not participating in SCN volunteer activities during that time. Most of my duties on the fundraising committee have been delegated temporarily. Meanwhile, friends of mine are leaving New York for good and moving to Seattle. Their ultimate goal is to find a house for rent on Vashon Island, and are looking for that or for a temporary one-to-three month rental here in the city starting in March (unfortunately too late to work things out with my place). From here they can start jobs and look for that Vashon dream house. If you or anyone you know is looking for month-to-month renters, has a house sitting or sublet opportunity or information about opportunities on Vashon, please let me know, asap. I will be checking my mail from points east after January 8th via America's community networks and library system. Thanks and see you in March, Cindy * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn END