From douglas  Tue Jul  1 08:47:28 1997
From: douglas (Doug Schuler)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 08:47:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: FYI %% news from New Orleans %% FYI
Message-ID: <199707011547.IAA21361@scn.org>


Thought that many of you would be interested in this...

-- Doug

> Date:         Mon, 30 Jun 1997 15:30:48 -0500
> From: Jessica Bray <jbray at gnofn.org>
> Organization: Greater New Orleans Free-Net
> Subject:      Louisiana Funding
> To: COMMUNET at list.uvm.edu
> 
> Dear Group:
> 
> I have waited to post this for a week now, but it is official.  The
> state of Louisiana appropriated 1.1 million to fund the expansion of the
> Greater New Orleans Free-Net.  The new Louisiana Free-Net will serve 2.3
> million people, over 65% of the state's population.  It will include 3
> Training Coordinator posistions, 3 Webmasters/Curators, 2 Help Desk
> Managers with 35 student internships and an 800 line for the Help Desk,
> 2 Development Directors (I don't even know how I am going to handle
> actually having two people whose job description is to get money), and a
> bunch of other stuff.  We actually are receiving 2.9 million over five
> years.  It is based on a self sustaining model, so we do get recurring
> revenues.  We are very excited and wanted to share the gooood nuuuuz!!!
> 
> Anyway, looking forward to working with all of you with ACN.
> 
> jbray
> Jessica Bray
> Executive Director
> Greater New Orleans Free-Net
> 
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From rclark at aa.net  Tue Jul  1 04:56:10 1997
From: rclark at aa.net (Rod Clark)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 11:56:10 +0000
Subject: 7/4
In-Reply-To: <199706292133.OAA16258@blaze.accessone.com>
Message-ID: <199707011902.MAA31383@big.aa.net>

> The neighbors here in Ballard tell me you can see both sets of
> fireworks from the balcony (at least the high ones).  Any
> interest in a board games/fireworks night on Friday, starting
> maybe 8:00?

Steve, 

   Oh, maybe. Hmm. Is it possible to acidentally spit 
watermelon seeds down on the heads of passersby from this 
balcony?

-rsc
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From kurt at grogatch.seaslug.org  Tue Jul  1 11:20:51 1997
From: kurt at grogatch.seaslug.org (Kurt Cockrum)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 11:20:51 -0700
Subject: news from New Orleans: the state extends its tentacles
Message-ID: <199707011820.LAA31263@grogatch.seaslug.org>

Message-Id: <199707011547.IAA21361 at scn.org>

Doug Schuler forwarded:
>Thought that many of you would be interested in this...
>[...]
>> Date:         Mon, 30 Jun 1997 15:30:48 -0500
>> From: Jessica Bray <jbray at gnofn.org>
>> Organization: Greater New Orleans Free-Net
>> Subject:      Louisiana Funding
>> To: COMMUNET at list.uvm.edu
>> 
>> Dear Group:
>> 
>> I have waited to post this for a week now, but it is official.  The
>> state of Louisiana appropriated 1.1 million to fund the expansion of the
>> Greater New Orleans Free-Net.  [...]
   ^       ^   ^       ^

Yikes! makes my blood run cold...
If SCN ever accepts money from the state, either on the federal or
state level, it'll never get any more support from me.  And I'll do
my best to get other people to do the same.  And I will ask that the
"kurt" user be deleted from SCN.

Can you imagine "free speech" on the GNOF? fnord!

In such an eventuality, it will be likely that a bunch of people will form rebel
freenets, sort of like various alternative media efforts currently going on, such
as FUCC and Eat the State.

As far as the kid thing goes (the "suitability for kids" thread currently running
on this list), who will protect us freethinkers from the hordes
of concerned parents (you, dear reader) frightened that their kids will recapitulate
the parent's childhood?  Parents, get a grip.  Maybe you should consider moving to some
country where they really do regulate the media, like Iran or China, or Singapore.
That way your kid will never turn into a raving pornographic marijuana-smoking
devil-worshipping serial.killer.sex.fiend, at least not until they manage to escape
back to the US for a couple of weeks on a trade mission, and go bonkers acting out all
their repressed desires and actualizing your worst fears.

All kinds of cliches come to mind at this point.  I'll only mention 2:
o	We are the people our parents warned us against (and so were our parents,
	although they were too dumb to realize it)
o	We have met the enemy and he is us (and never was anybody else)
--kurt
Sex, drugs and classical music: synergy or oxymoron?
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From rclark at pop.aa.net  Tue Jul  1 05:45:40 1997
From: rclark at pop.aa.net (Rod Clark)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 12:45:40 +0000
Subject: news from New Orleans: the state extends its tentacles
In-Reply-To: <199707011820.LAA31263@grogatch.seaslug.org>
Message-ID: <199707011951.MAA22305@moon.aa.net>

> Can you imagine "free speech" on the GNOF? fnord!
> 
> In such an eventuality, it will be likely that a bunch of people will form rebel
> freenets, sort of like various alternative media efforts currently going on, such
> as FUCC and Eat the State.

   Here you are, Kurt. No imagination needed.

Rod

-----
GREATER NEW ORLEANS FREE-NET 
Registered User Agreement 
... 
2.That the use of the System is a privilege which may be revoked
by GNOFN at any time for any violation of GNOFN policy. Such
conduct would include, but not be limited to, the placing of
unlawful information on the System, the use of obscene, abusive,
or otherwise objectionable language in either public or private
messages, or violation of this Agreement. GNOFN will be the sole
arbiter of what constitutes obscene, abusive, or objectionable
language. 

3.That GNOFN reserves the right to review any material stored
in files or programs to which other users have access and will
edit or remove any material which GNOFN, in its sole
discretion, believes may be unlawful, obscene, abusive, or
otherwise objectionable. 

GNOFN REQUIRES A VALID PHOTO ID (E.G., A DRIVER'S LICENSE OR
STATE ID CARD) IN ORDER TO ISSUE AN ACCOUNT. 

Photo ID                
--------------------------------------- 
Place your Photo ID  
(e.g., driver's license)
here 
and photocopy this form.
A photocopy of a picture ID is
REQUIRED for GNOFN access.
---------------------------------------


-----
GREATER NEW ORLEANS FREE-NET, INC.,
POLICIES & RULES OF THE ROAD
...
Appropriate Language

The use of profanity, obscenity, or other language which may be
offensive to other users is unacceptable on the network. This
policy applies to the posting of public or private messages and
other electronic communications on the network. Such language is
to be reported immediately to the System Administrators. GNOFN
reserves the right to enforce this policy. Any user found
abusing this policy may be removed from the system. 

Approved by Board of Directors, September 28, 1994 

-----
Offensive or Inflammatory Speech

System users must respect the rights of others in the local
community and the Internet community at large. Personal attacks
("flames") are an unacceptable. Victims of flames should bring
the incident to the attention of the System Administrator. 

Approved by GNOFN Board of Directors, November 9, 1994 

-----
Privacy
... 
This means that except in unusual circumstances, the system
administrator will not read e-mail or examine files.
Circumstances under which it is necessary to read files or mail
include: 
...
4.investigations of violations of User Agreement, including
offensive material ...
... 
6.responding to complaints from other users 

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From bd252 at scn.org  Tue Jul  1 13:42:48 1997
From: bd252 at scn.org (Kenneth J. Crandall)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 13:42:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: further thought on kid-appropriate content
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.93.970630163339.26254B-100000@eve.speakeasy.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970701134141.28195A-100000@scn>

This seems to be a rational approach without incorporating needless
monitoring requirements.
						ken Crandall

On Mon, 30 Jun 1997, Joe Mabel wrote:

> If we are going to host web pages and are concerned with the issue of
> kid-appropriate content, the easiest thing to do is to ask people to
> self-classify rather than anyone else having to decide what is
> kid-appropriate.  99% will doubtless classify themsleves in an appropriate
> manner.  If some few don't we can deal with that on a case-by-case basis
> as long as we reserve the right to do so.
> 
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From lwinn at u.washington.edu  Tue Jul  1 19:07:15 1997
From: lwinn at u.washington.edu (L. Winn)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 19:07:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: No subject
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970630195852.22236A-100000@scn>
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970701185924.5264A-100000@dante22.u.washington.edu>

Sorry you didn't get ahold of me earlier this week.  I just bought a
spanking brand new fancy computer and I've been mucking around with it
trying to get everything to work.  You caught me on line on Sunday night
and then on Monday I just plain wasn't home--class and work from
8:30am till 11pm--yuk!

Thanks for the reminder on the class--I was thinking aboutit anyway, but
you never know, this evening I thought I worked from 7 till 8, but no--I
was suppose to start at 6.  Yipes!

The class went very smoothly--helped along by the fact that we only had 10
or students, who all managed to follow along and not jump ahead.  We did
have one nitwit who changed his password in class and immediately found he
couldn't log back in.  He insisted he was typing it correctly, that it was
a problem with scn. Maybe voluteering at SCN will make me appreciate the
users I run across at work.  They seem highly skilled in comparison.

Lisa

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From lwinn at u.washington.edu  Tue Jul  1 19:17:46 1997
From: lwinn at u.washington.edu (L. Winn)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 19:17:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <Pine.A41.3.95b.970701191607.67678A-100000@dante28.u.washington.edu>

Yikes!  I didn't mean to sent that out to everyone on the list!
sorry.


Now I can be an example of the bad, bad user, that is too half witted to
know how to forward things properly!  sorry everyone on the scn.org list.

argh.

Lisa


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From heatherh at redwood.rt.cs.boeing.com  Wed Jul  2 13:45:44 1997
From: heatherh at redwood.rt.cs.boeing.com (Heather Holmback)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 13:45:44 -0700
Subject: news from New Orleans: the state extends its tentacles
Message-ID: <199707022045.NAA09630@kiona.network-b>

Kurt wrote: 
 
...
 
As far as the kid thing goes (the "suitability for kids" thread currently runn\ing       
on this list), who will protect us freethinkers from the hordes
of concerned parents (you, dear reader) frightened that their kids will recapi\tulate    
the parent's childhood?  Parents, get a grip.  Maybe you should consider movin\g to some   
country where they really do regulate the media, like Iran or China, or Singap\ore.        
That way your kid will never turn into a raving pornographic marijuana-smoking
devil-worshipping serial.killer.sex.fiend, at least not until they manage to e\scape       
back to the US for a couple of weeks on a trade mission, and go bonkers acting\ out all    
their repressed desires and actualizing your worst fears.
 
...
 
*****************************************************************************
 
Dear Kurt,
 
I am so happy that I can always count on you, with your extensive experience 
in raising children, for parenting advice.  Why, if it weren't for your  
eloquent and convincing postings which always point out that there only two
opposing views a parent can choose from on the above issue, I might be lulled
into the wishy washy view that there are actually a lot of gray areas involved
which parents have to actually think about.   I might believe that it is  
actually possible to be a freethinker AND a concerned parent.  Maybe you 
should consider moving to some country like Iran or China or Singapore where
I am sure they could benefit from your wisdom.
 
- Heather Holmback


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From ljbeedle at scn.org  Thu Jul  3 06:15:06 1997
From: ljbeedle at scn.org (Lois Beedle)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 06:15:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: news from New Orleans: the state extends its tentacles
In-Reply-To: <199707022045.NAA09630@kiona.network-b>
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970703061453.26013A-100000@scn>

yeah heather!!!!!

When you're retired you don't get any time off!!!

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From marcia at scn.org  Thu Jul  3 12:58:49 1997
From: marcia at scn.org (Marcia Bender)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 12:58:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Picnic
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970703125025.11998A-100000@scn>

Hey everybody....We can't wait to see you at the SCN/SCNA picnic.
4pm on Saturday July 5
Information on how to get there can be found: 
http://www.scn.org/volunteers/picnic.html
(Write to me, marcia at scn.org, if you need more help than this).


We'll be at the picnic tables and shelter in the area where there is 
a view of Puget Sound...we'll have some  identifying signs on the tables
provided by the parks department.

Bring your happy hats...
Marcia

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From dltooley at speakeasy.org  Fri Jul  4 15:24:33 1997
From: dltooley at speakeasy.org (Doug Tooley)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 15:24:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Request for Comment on gTLDs Pursuant to Administrative Procedure Act (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.93.970704152350.5050A-100000@eve.speakeasy.org>


[Federal Register: July 2, 1997 (Volume 62, Number 127)]
[Notices]               
[Page 35895-35897]
>From the Federal Register Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov]
[DOCID:fr02jy97-166]


[[Page 35895]]

_______________________________________________________________________

Part II





Department of Commerce





_______________________________________________________________________



Request for Comments on the Registration and Administration of Internet 
Domain Names; Notice


[[Page 35896]]



DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE

[Docket No. 970613137-7137-01]

 
Request for Comments on the Registration and Administration of 
Internet Domain Names

AGENCY: Department of Commerce.

ACTION: Notice; request for public comment.

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SUMMARY: The Department of Commerce requests comments on the current 
and future system(s) for the registration of Internet domain names. The 
Department invites the public to submit written comments in paper or 
electronic form.<SUP>1</SUP>

    \1\ This request for public comment is not intended to supplant 
or otherwise affect the work of other public advisory groups, 
established under law.
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DATES: Comments must be received by August 18, 1997.

ADDRESSES: Mail written comments to Patrice Washington, Office of 
Public Affairs, National Telecommunications and Information 
Administration (NTIA), Room 4898, 14th St. and Constitution Ave., NW, 
Washington, DC 20230. See SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION for electronic 
access and filing addresses and further information on submitting 
comments.

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: Paula Bruening, NTIA, (202) 482-1816.

SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION:

Electronic Access and Filing Addresses

    The address for comments submitted in electronic form is 
dns at ntia.doc.gov. Comments submitted in electronic form should be in 
WordPerfect, Microsoft Word, or ASCII format. Detailed information 
about electronic filing is available on the NTIA website, http://
www.ntia.doc.gov.

Further Information on Submitting Comments

    Submit written comments in paper or electronic form at the above 
addresses. Paper submissions should include three paper copies and a 
version on diskette in the formats specified above. To assist 
reviewers, comments should be numbered and organized in response to 
questions in accordance with the five sections of this notice 
(Appropriate Principles, General/Organizational Framework Issues, 
Creation of New gTLDs, Policies for Registries, and Trademark Issues). 
Commenters should address each section on a separate page and should 
indicate at the beginning of their submission to which questions they 
are responding.

Background

    The rapid growth in the use of the Internet has led to increasing 
public concern about the current Internet domain name registration 
systems. According to Internet Monthly Report, registration of domain 
names within a few top-level domains (.com, .net, .org) has increased 
from approximately 400 per month in 1993 to as many as 70,000 per month 
in 1996, the overwhelming majority in the .com category. The enormous 
growth and commercialization of the Internet has raised numerous 
questions about current domain name registration systems. In addition, 
the present system will likely undergo modification when the National 
Science Foundation's cooperative agreement (NSF agreement) with Network 
Solutions Inc. to register and administer second-level domains for 
three top-level domains expires in 1998. Resolution of these issues 
will also affect the future operation of the National Information 
Infrastructure (NII) and the Global Information Infrastructure (GII).
    The United States Government played a central role in the initial 
development, deployment, and operation of domain name registration 
systems, and through the NSF agreement as well as Defense Advanced 
Research Projects Agency (DARPA) agreement(s) continues to play a role. 
In recent years, however, Internet expansion has been driven primarily 
by the private sector. The Internet has operated by consensus rather 
than by government regulation. Many believe that the Internet's 
decentralized structure accounts at least in part for its rapid growth.
    The Government has supported the privatization and 
commercialization of the Internet through actions such as the 
transition from the NSFNET backbone to commercial backbones. The 
Government supports continued private sector leadership for the 
Internet and believes that the transition to private sector control 
should continue. The stability of the Internet depends on a fully 
interconnected and interoperable domain name system that must be 
preserved during any transition.
    Various private sector groups have proposed systems for allocating 
and managing generic top level domains (gTLDs). The Government is 
studying the proposals and the underlying issues to determine what 
role, if any, it should play. The Government has not endorsed any plan 
at this time but believes that it is very important to reach consensus 
on these policy issues as soon as possible.
    The United States Government seeks the views of the public 
regarding these proposals and broader policy issues as well. 
Specifically, the Government seeks information on the following issues:

A. Appropriate Principles

    The Government seeks comment on the principles by which it should 
evaluate proposals for the registration and administration of Internet 
domain names. Are the following principles appropriate? Are they 
complete? If not, how should they be revised? How might such principles 
best be fostered?
    a. Competition in and expansion of the domain name registration 
system should be encouraged. Conflicting domains, systems, and 
registries should not be permitted to jeopardize the interoperation of 
the Internet, however. The addressing scheme should not prevent any 
user from connecting to any other site.
    b. The private sector, with input from governments, should develop 
stable, consensus-based self-governing mechanisms for domain name 
registration and management that adequately defines responsibilities 
and maintains accountability.
    c. These self-governance mechanisms should recognize the inherently 
global nature of the Internet and be able to evolve as necessary over 
time.
    d. The overall framework for accommodating competition should be 
open, robust, efficient, and fair.
    e. The overall policy framework as well as name allocation and 
management mechanisms should promote prompt, fair, and efficient 
resolution of conflicts, including conflicts over proprietary rights.
    f. A framework should be adopted as quickly as prudent 
consideration of these issues permits.

B. General/Organizational Framework Issues

    1. What are the advantages and disadvantages of current domain name 
registration systems?
    2. How might current domain name systems be improved?
    3. By what entity, entities, or types of entities should current 
domain name systems be administered? What should the makeup of such an 
entity be?
    4. Are there decision-making processes that can serve as models for 
deciding on domain name registration systems (e.g., network numbering 
plan, standard-setting processes, spectrum allocation)? Are there 
private/public sector administered models or regimes that can be used 
for domain name registration (e.g., network numbering plan, standard 
setting processes, or

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spectrum allocation processes)? What is the proper role of national or 
international governmental/non-governmental organizations, if any, in 
national and international domain name registration systems?
    5. Should generic top level domains (gTLDs), (e.g., .com), be 
retired from circulation? Should geographic or country codes (e.g., 
.US) be required? If so, what should happen to the .com registry? Are 
gTLD management issues separable from questions about International 
Standards Organization (ISO) country code domains?
    6. Are there any technological solutions to current domain name 
registration issues? Are there any issues concerning the relationship 
of registrars and gTLDs with root servers?
    7. How can we ensure the scalability of the domain name system name 
and address spaces as well as ensure that root servers continue to 
interoperate and coordinate?
    8. How should the transition to any new systems be accomplished?
    9. Are there any other issues that should be addressed in this 
area?

C. Creation of New gTLDs

    10. Are there technical, practical, and/or policy considerations 
that constrain the total number of different gTLDs that can be created?
    11. Should additional gTLDs be created?
    12. Are there technical, business, and/or policy issues about 
guaranteeing the scalability of the name space associated with 
increasing the number of gTLDs?
    13. Are gTLD management issues separable from questions about ISO 
country code domains?
    14. Are there any other issues that should be addressed in this 
area?

D. Policies for Registries

    15. Should a gTLD registrar have exclusive control over a 
particular gTLD? Are there any technical limitations on using shared 
registries for some or all gTLDs? Can exclusive and non-exclusive gTLDs 
coexist?
    16. Should there be threshold requirements for domain name 
registrars, and what responsibilities should such registrars have? Who 
will determine these and how?
    17. Are there technical limitations on the possible number of 
domain name registrars?
    18. Are there technical, business and/or policy issues about the 
name space raised by increasing the number of domain name registrars?
    19. Should there be a limit on the number of different gTLDs a 
given registrar can administer? Does this depend on whether the 
registrar has exclusive or non-exclusive rights to the gTLD?
    20. Are there any other issues that should be addressed in this 
area?

E. Trademark Issues

    21. What trademark rights (e.g., registered trademarks, common law 
trademarks, geographic indications, etc.), if any, should be protected 
on the Internet vis-a-vis domain names?
    22. Should some process of preliminary review of an application for 
registration of a domain name be required, before allocation, to 
determine if it conflicts with a trademark, a trade name, a geographic 
indication, etc.? If so, what standards should be used? Who should 
conduct the preliminary review? If a conflict is found, what should be 
done, e.g., domain name applicant and/or trademark owner notified of 
the conflict? Automatic referral to dispute settlement?
    23. Aside from a preliminary review process, how should trademark 
rights be protected on the Internet vis-a-vis domain names? What 
entity(ies), if any, should resolve disputes? Are national courts the 
only appropriate forum for such disputes? Specifically, is there a role 
for national/international governmental/nongovernmental organizations?
    24. How can conflicts over trademarks best be prevented? What 
information resources (e.g. databases of registered domain names, 
registered trademarks, trade names) could help reduce potential 
conflicts? If there should be a database(s), who should create the 
database(s)? How should such a database(s) be used?
    25. Should domain name applicants be required to demonstrate that 
they have a basis for requesting a particular domain name? If so, what 
information should be supplied? Who should evaluate the information? On 
the basis of what criteria?
    26. How would the number of different gTLDs and the number of 
registrars affect the number and cost of resolving trademark disputes?
    27. Where there are valid, but conflicting trademark rights for a 
single domain name, are there any technological solutions?
    28. Are there any other issues that should be addressed in this 
area?
William M. Daley,
Secretary.
[FR Doc. 97-17215 Filed 7-1-97; 8:45 am]
BILLING CODE 3510-60-U

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From douglas  Mon Jul 14 10:31:09 1997
From: douglas (Doug Schuler)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 10:31:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: city of Seattle Request For Proposal For Consultant Services
Message-ID: <199707141731.KAA18248@scn.org>


I have a multi-page RFP for consultant services that may be of
interest to people on these lists.  Since it's pretty long I didn't
send it out to everybody.  Please let me know if you'd like a copy.
It deals with public access, TCI, etc.

-- Doug

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From nancyk at scn.org  Thu Jul 17 14:40:43 1997
From: nancyk at scn.org (Nancyk)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 14:40:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: CPSR/Seattle PICNIC Aug. 19th
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.94.970717143946.4872E-100000@scn>


************************************************************************
                      Tuesday, AUGUST 19th

                Annual CPSR/Seattle potluck PICNIC!!!

                        at Gas Works Park

                          7:00pm - 9:00pm

                      *** RAIN OR SHINE *** 

************************************************************************


CPSR (Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility)-Seattle invites you
to join us after work at Gas Works Park for our annual potluck picnic. Gas
Works Park is always a gas - and this year it's going to be hotter than
ever!!! We're inviting SCN (Seattle Community Network) and other local
notables.

Mark your calendar!   Mark your calendar!    Mark your calendar!

      Tues. August 19th - Gas Works Park - 7:00-9:00 pm
 
Gas Works Park's haunting rusty towers and post-industrial landscape make
for an appropriately apocalyptic picnic environment for technophiles and
technophobes alike. A large rotating device allows you to transfer your
kinetic energy to up to three other people, while conserving energy! So, be
sure and bring along family, friends, and co-workers!

Bring your favorite dish or just pick up something (or someone) at the
corner deli. But don't even *think* about missing this one! 

                          Everyone WELCOME!!!



        ----> Email karyn at oz.net to confirm and get directions. <----

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From toms at scn.org  Thu Jul 17 17:18:16 1997
From: toms at scn.org (Tom Sparks)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 17:18:16 -0700
Subject: Election Announcement
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19970717171816.008306d0@scn.org>

The 1997 SCNA Board of Directors election is officially open. Three positions for officers of the board are in the running. Each position is a three-year position. Please read all the information on the SCNA web page for the complete election information.

 

If you are interested in running for the board of the Seattle Community Network Association, please send notice to scna-board at scn.org. There has been a web site created for the election, the URL is http://www.scn.org/scna/election97. Information about the election and the candidates will be found there. A new SCN Forum has been created for the discussion of campaign issues and/or questions about the process and for general discussion of the campaign. The Forum is entitled scn.scna.elections. If you are current member of SCNA your name will be placed on a new SCN mailing list election97, this mail list can be used by the candidates and voters to discuss election issues.

 

To vote in the election you will need to have been a member of SCNA for 30 days. There is a SCNA membership forum online at this URL; http://www.scn.org/scna/scna-form.html. 

 
This is the schedule for the campaign and election;
 July 14th Nominations Open  
August 27th Nominations Close  
September 24th Election  
September 27th Results Announced  
October 22 General Meeting -- Possible Runoff Election

At the August general meeting there will be time for the candidates to address those present. The election will be held at the September General Meeting (the SCNA Annual Meeting). Any changes to the SCNA Bylaws can be voted on at this meeting as well. 

Proposed changes should be mailed to scna-board at scn.org. 

The SCNA Nominating and Election Committee is;
Tom Sparks         toms at scn.org
James Russel       jamesr at scn.org
Joel Ware            jw4 at scn.org

..Tom Sparks
  toms at scn.org


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From douglas  Thu Jul 24 14:12:26 1997
From: douglas (Doug Schuler)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 14:12:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Query for article information
Message-ID: <199707242112.OAA00667@scn.org>


Gary Chapman and Lodis Rhodes were both here in Seattle for
the "Community Space and Cyberspace" confernce.  Please get in
touch with them if you have any relevant information.  Thanks!

-- Doug

Date:         Mon, 21 Jul 1997 09:55:07 -0500
From: Gary Chapman <gary.chapman at mail.utexas.edu>
Subject:      Community Networks in Low-Income Communities
To: COMMUNET at list.uvm.edu

Dear Communetters,

Lodis Rhodes and I at the University of Texas are doing a fairly long
article for Technology Review magazine (published by MIT) about the
potential for community networks to have an impact in low-income
communities. This article will be published in the October issue of the
magazine, which will probably come out in late September.

The editors at Tech Review have asked me to write a sidebar for the article
about community networks in low-income communities around the U.S. I know a
lot of these efforts already, but I may be unaware of some. So if you're
doing this kind of work, and you think you have a program that should be
mentioned in the sidebar, please send me a SHORT description of what you're
doing, and please include the following information:

        ** contact name/e-mail/website address
        **sponsor / source of funding
        **date started operation
        **number of users
        **distinctive characteristics

I can't guarantee that your program will be mentioned, obviously -- the
magazine doesn't provide enough room to list all the worthy projects there
are. But I'd like to have a good grasp on what is happening, so please do
respond if you feel you're doing good work in a low-income community.

Send responses to: gary.chapman at mail.utexas.edu.

Thanks,

-- Gary

Gary Chapman
Director
The 21st Century Project
LBJ School of Public Affairs
Drawer Y
University Station
University of Texas
Austin, TX  78713
(512) 471-8326
(512) 471-1835 (fax)
gary.chapman at mail.utexas.edu
http://www.utexas.edu/lbj/21cp

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From douglas  Sun Jul 27 20:44:39 1997
From: douglas (Doug Schuler)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 20:44:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Some exchange on working with neighborhood groups, FYI
Message-ID: <199707280344.UAA12297@scn.org>


Some exchange from communet list serv.  FYI

-- Doug


Date:         Sat, 26 Jul 1997 09:56:59 -0400
From: Steve Snow <shsnow at CHARWEB.ORG>
Subject:      Re: Project in low-income housing co-op
To: COMMUNET at list.uvm.edu

Folks,

I apologize, first, for including most of this posting uin my reply.
However, contecxt is very important to this discusssion.
>
> A neighborhood organization in Minneapolis is embarking on a project in a
> 56-unit low-income housing co-op. They will be providing the residents with
> ASCII terminals for the purpose of communicating online. Twin Cities
> Free-Net will be providing what support we can (they'll be dialing into our
> system).
>
> ==========================================================================
>
> I'm a community
> organizer for Elliot Park Neighborhood, Inc., concentrating primarily on
> safety issues. I've been trying for a year and a half to get the residents
> of Chicago Avenue Apartments to organize around a safety-related issue -
> ANY safety-related issue - and have had very little success. There is
> considerable difficulty getting the residents of that complex to A) Stop
> squabbling long enough to cooperate with one another, and B) Stick to
> something long enough to get measurable results.
>
> I hope to launch a new online conference in that complex, specifically to
> address issues of immediate importance to the residents of Chicago Avenue
> Apartments. I want to start it out small (just that complex), and try to
> expand it to serve the needs of the Old Town In Town condominium co-op
> that is right next door, and the senior's high-rise at 1515 Park Avenue,
> just across a parking lot from both co-ops. The primary initial focus
> will be on safety issues, but any community-building topic will be open
> for discussion once the conference opens.
>
> The complex has been identified in our NRP plan as a focus point for
> our neighborhood computer project. We intend to launch a computer training
> project in the complex, and to install several workstations in the
> building for the residents to learn and hone skills that will make them
> more employable in today's job market, and tomorrow's.
>
> One, I hope that this forum will be one in which the residents of
> Chicago Avenue Apartments will feel comfortable working with one another
> over the long haul, for the benefit of their block and the neighborhood
> as a whole. Two, it looks like an opportunity for the Freenet to break
> some ground by pioneering small-scale community conferencing. Three, it
> is an opportunity for the residents of Chicago Avenue to take some
> half-steps between a total lack of computer knowledge and the basic
> familiarity that will be required if they are to take advantage of the
> NRP computer-training project - whenever that gets going, and whatever
> form it takes. Right now, few (if any) know the difference between a
> mouse and a monitor. They will be hard-pressed to stick to any training
> project that requires a basic familiarity that they simply do not have.
>
> I also see the opportunity to work myself into another heart attack.
> This is going to be like driving a herd of cats. I don't *expect* it to
> work anywhere near as well as I *hope* it will, but I do hope to be able
> to adapt to the obstacles as they present themselves. If we can launch
> this, and build a little bit of momentum, we stand a chance of getting
> residents of Old Town In Town and 1515 Park to jump in and help us
> get to critical mass.
>

We have been doing something in Charlotte
(http://www.charweb.org/neighbors/enab/index.html)

Our focus has been on community leaders first because they are already
motivated to make their area better.

Focusing firepower in a single neighborhood can be powerful, if the
project is carefully thought out and there is *massive* follow-through.

There are several things I wonder about with this project.

First, how will the training be phased in? Who has developed the training
material and is it really suited for the users? [We teach a 9-hour course
in basic computer use/telecom and spent a lot of time developing our own
material based on MS Works for DOS. We might have to change it all as we
move to a Win 3.1 environment in '386 machines.]

We felt 9 hours would be about all people could/would give to get up to
speed.

Once people know how to do this, getting them to do it is another matter.
In your setting, peer pressure might or might not help, I don't know. We
*require* that people send e-mail to a central person once a week at
least. That forces people to use the equipment; if they aren't sending
mail, we check in with them and get them back on track. This tech. is
only useful if it is used regularly but for people outside the electronic
culture use is not a normal occurrance. You are creating new habits.

Technical followup is also very important. We have replaced monitors,
CPUs, printers; reset dialing strings -- whatever it takes to help people
stay online. And we answer endless, natural questions. But it comes at a
cost of our time.

We currently have about 30 people in the program and are going to add 10
more before long.

We also get people together for periodic face-to-face sessions about what
is working and what is not. Candid discussions reveal problems that we
can address.

Long-term retention is iffy. We haven't done it more than a year and have
lost some already. People move. They lose interest. They get busy. And
these are people, recall, who *already care* enough about their
neighborhoods to go through a 6-9 month "community leadership" training
course at the local community college.

Finally, I have a challenge to raise: If people will not work together
face to face, why does anyone think they will work better electronically?
The face to face part, to me, is even more important in an electronic
environment, especially for neighborhood groups.

I wonder if focusing on drawing the community together as a tangible
group first might not make more sense (tho more low-tech) and then
introduce computers as a way to enhance or extend conversations? I'm sure
others have thoughts about these things.

Keep repeating this mantra: This is only a tool, this is only a tool,
this is only a tool.

It is not the Holy Grail.

It is important to see telecomm stuff in its rightful place; it can help
drive change but only with tremendous investment in time and energy over
a long term.

If you already believe that it won't be that successful, perhaps it would
be better to get greater clarity first on what you believe *would* be
successful and do that, rather than laying another level of technology on
a group that already is in some disarray?

My thoughts on a Saturday morning as I try to get through e-mail after
vacation.

Steve Snow
Charlotte's Web
shsnow at charweb.org

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From douglas  Mon Jul 28 14:54:12 1997
From: douglas (Doug Schuler)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 14:54:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: SCN Stories
Message-ID: <199707282154.OAA14987@scn.org>


Hello!  I'm sending out this note to all of you just in case you have
any good SCN stories to relate to Steve Silha (SSilha at aol.com).  Steve
works for a non-profit organization called "Good News, Good Deeds"
which is tracking civic projects, specifically in the Seattle area.
For a write-up on SCN Steve would love to hear how SCN was used to help
solve an individual problem, learn a skill, find an answer, get
involved with medical information or self-help, work on a neighborhood,
political, or activist issue, etc.  If SCN has helped you do any of
these things (or similar things) please send Steve a note.  Thanks!!
(Also please CC me as well on the note - thanks)

-- Doug 




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From douglas  Mon Jul 28 17:18:00 1997
From: douglas (Doug Schuler)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 17:18:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: RuralTeleCon '97
Message-ID: <199707290018.RAA05401@scn.org>



FYI,


From namioka at netcom.com  Tue Jul 29 18:36:44 1997
From: namioka at netcom.com (Aki Namioka)
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 18:36:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Reminder!
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9707291815.A28357-0100000@netcom>

Its coming up ... look forward to seeing y'all.

- Aki



*************************************************************************
                     Tuesday, AUGUST 19th

             Annual CPSR/Seattle potluck PICNIC!!!

                      at Gas Works Park

                       7:00pm - 9:00pm

                    *** RAIN OR SHINE *** 
************************************************************************


CPSR (Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility)-Seattle invites you 
to join us after work at Gas Works Park for our annual potluck picnic. Gas 
Works Park is always a gas - and this year it's going to be hotter than 
ever!!! We're inviting SCN (Seattle Community Network) and other local 
notables.


Mark your calendar!   Mark your calendar!    Mark your calendar!

--->    Tues. August 19th - Gas Works Park - 7:00-9:00 pm   <---
 
Gas Works Park's haunting rusty towers and post-industrial landscape make
for an appropriately apocalyptic picnic environment for technophiles and
technophobes alike. A large rotating device allows you to transfer your
kinetic energy to up to three other people, while conserving energy! So, be 
sure and bring along family, friends, and co-workers!

Don't forget to bring food and (non-alcoholic) drinks to share! Email 
karyn at oz.net to RSVP.

                    






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From namioka at netcom.com  Wed Jul 30 17:59:04 1997
From: namioka at netcom.com (Aki Namioka)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 17:59:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: An update & some questions for you (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9707301751.A22689-0100000@netcom>

In case some of you are interested

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 17:53:43 -0500
From:ami at IDEALIST.ORG
To: announce at IDEALIST.ORG
Subject: An update & some questions for you

Hi,

This is Ami Dar from the Contact Center Network. I am
writing you either because your organization is listed in
our directory of nonprofits at http://www.idealist.org, or
because you asked us to update you on Action Without Borders
'97 (the global week of voluntary action planned for October
18-25).

This message contains the following updates:

* New version of Idealist - faster and easier to search
* Nonprofit sites with daily news, now all in one place
* Global directory of public Internet access points is up
* An update on Action Without Borders '97
* Apologies if we haven't gotten back to you

But before these news, I'd like to take this opportunity to
see if from your corner of the world things look more or
less the same as they do from here.

Over the last two years, in working with thousands of
organizations to assemble the resources on our Website,
we've had the opportunity to see, again and again, how many
of these groups are driven by similar values and goals, and
also how many of them face similar needs and challenges.

These challenges vary from place to place, but one
underlying theme seems to recur everywhere: the need for
better mechanisms for cooperation, both locally and
internationally, among individuals, organizations, schools,
businesses and other institutions.

These needs became even clearer after we started inviting
people to take part in Action Without Borders '97, and many
of them, especially in schools in universities, responded by
asking if there was any way we could work together year
round, and not only during that week in October.

To address these challenges, and provide new mechanisms for
collaboration and mutual support that will use the Internet
yet go beyond it, we are now changing our name from Contact
Center Network to Action Without Borders and adopting the
following preliminary mission statement:

"Action Without Borders is a global network of individuals
and organizations sharing ideas, information and resources
to help build a world where all people can live free,
dignified and productive lives.

Action Without Borders works through the Internet and
through local chapters to promote and facilitate
collaboration, volunteerism and investment in support of
these goals.

Action Without Borders is independent of any government,
political ideology or religious creed. Its work is guided by
the common desire of its members and supporters to find
practical solutions to social and environmental problems, in
a spirit of  generosity and mutual respect."

More detailed programs and guidelines for AWB will be
defined during the next few months through a global outreach
and information gathering campaign (starting with this
message to you) to see both what people want and need, and
what collaborative projects are already in place in
different communities that could then be replicated in
others.

What is already clear, is that both through www.idealist.org
and through local chapters and groups, AWB will:

* Promote and facilitate voluntary action, locally and
internationally

* Share working solutions and new ideas

* Link start-up organizations with more established ones

* Link organizations in need of technical support with
people who can provide it (at computer clubs, college
computer departments, high-tech companies, etc.).

* Link nonprofit organizations with businesses that want to
support them.

* Support the right of people everywhere to freedom of
information and association (without which not much else can
be done).

Depending on local needs and resources, AWB chapters will
range from informal groups meeting once every month or two
to share ideas and information, to full-fledged Action
Centers providing all the services listed above, and any
others that are suggested as we move ahead.

My questions to you:

1. Do you often feel that good resources are wasted or
underused, and that much more could be done if people had
better access to the tools and information they need?

2. Do you like the mission statement? Would you add or
change anything?

3. Would you be interested in helping build this network?
And if so, do you think that others in your community or
organization might be interested too?

I look forward to your reply. If you want to get involved,
you can also:

* Visit http://www.idealist.org, where you can now register
individually, so that other interested people can find you
by country, city, ZIP code and area of interest.

* Forward this message to anyone you know who might also be
interested in this initiative.

* Let us know of any collaborative projects that have
succeeded in your community, which you think could be
replicated in others.

Thanks!

Now, on to the shorter updates:

* NEW VERSION OF IDEALIST - FASTER AND EASIER TO SEARCH

- With the help of generous friends, we have just moved
Idealist to a stronger server with better software. As a
result, searches are now faster and easier than before.

(Idealist is an online resource that enables nonprofit and
community organizations - whether they have a Website or not
- to enter an update detailed information about their
mission, services, volunteer opportunities, jobs,
internships, events and material. 3,000 organizations are
already using Idealist. If you have any questions about this
system, please contact patsy at idealist.org )

* NONPROFIT SITES WITH DAILY NEWS, NOW IN ONE PLACE

A growing number of organizations are offering daily or
weekly news updates on their Websites, some for and about
nonprofits in general (such as Philanthropy Journal and
Philanthropy News Digest), and others specializing in one or
more areas of interest (Women's Wire and Disaster Relief,
for example). You can now find all of these sites in one
place at www.idealist.org

* DIRECTORY OF PUBLIC INTERNET ACCESS POINTS IS UP

To enable more people to have access to all of these
resources, and to the Web in general, we are building a
searchable directory of public Internet access points at
schools, libraries, community centers, Internet cafes, etc.
If you know anyone who works at such a site, please let them
know that they can now enter themselves at www.idealist.org.

* AN UPDATE ON "ACTION WITHOUT BORDERS '97"

- Over 100 organizations in 20 countries have already
registered as participants, and more are registering every
day. Coalitions and umbrella organizations are participating
in Australia, Brazil, India, Israel and the US, and people
from hundreds of schools, universities and companies have
already signed up. A full list of participating
organizations is available on the site. If you have any
questions about AWB '97, please contact russ at idealist.org

- In the United States, USA Today, one of the largest
newspapers in the country, is holding its annual day of
community service ("Make a Difference Day" in which over a
million people took part last year) on October 25, the last
day of AWB '97,  and we are working with them to coordinate
the two events.

- The comment that has come up most often in people's
feedback is the request for specific examples of activities
and projects. Dozens of examples, as well as a form for you
to add your own ideas, are now available on the site.

* APOLOGIES IF WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN BACK TO YOU

Over the last few months we have had some problems here with
our incoming and outgoing email, which have now been fixed.
We apologize if at any time you wrote us or submitted a form
on our Website and didn't hear back from us, and we'll do
our best to make sure this doesn't happen again.

We look forward to hearing from you.

Thanks and best regards,

Ami Dar
Executive Director
Action Without Borders
ami at idealist.org
Tel: 212-843-3973
Fax: 212- 564-3377

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From nancyk at scn.org  Thu Jul 31 18:01:34 1997
From: nancyk at scn.org (Nancyk)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 18:01:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Phone lines. (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.94.970731180106.13719I-100000@scn>


---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 17:58:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Johnson <jj at scn.org>

The City of Seattle disconnected all of our old phone lines a day early.
We are taking advantage of this to get as much of the work setting up the
new lines done Thursday night, which should minimize the disruptions on
Friday morning.  (The new lines go in at 7 AM.)  The Seattle Public
Library has graciously allowed us extra connections on their 386-4140
number for the duration.

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