difficult e-mail?

[Joe Mabel]

JJ, I object to the snide tone you are adopting.  This discussion is 
useful.  The "let's step outside & fight" tone isn't.

Easy for one person is not easy for another.  If you are used to a GUI, 
easy means meeting the expectations of that GUI.  If you are used to a 
command line interface, easy means command line interface, like ancient 
Unix mail.  If you've worked in computers for 20 years it's all easy.

Ctrl-X to send is only easy if you are used to that sort of thing.  Ctrl-W 
to search is almost pathological, but if you've used Pine/Pico enough you 
are used to it.  I don't find Pine notably friendly or unfriendly, but it's 
one of the 100 or so computer programs I know well enough not to need to 
think about whether it's friendly.  I suspect you are in the same boat.  I 
suspect it's not the same 100 or so programs.

My dad likes AOL's mail.  Go figure.  I think it's crap.

But the point of what Rich & others are saying is that we should get away 
from "one size fits all".  No one wants to take Pine away from you.  The 
point is that if we want to serve a community we need to respect diversity: 
not just as a buzzword for racial, ethnic, class, and sexual diversity but 
actual rubber-meets-the-road diversity in how people want to use our 
system.

-----Original Message-----
From:	John Johnson [SMTP:jj at scn.org]
Sent:	Wednesday, September 16, 1998 12:12 AM
To:	Rich Littleton
Cc:	services at scn.org; scn at scn.org
Subject:	Re: difficult e-mail?


Come one Rich, don't keep us in suspense:  tell us about these "2 or 3"
e-mail "systems" that you think are more user friendly than Pine.  Or do
we have to make all sorts of promises to you before you will let us in on
the secret?

You keep mouthing off about how "unfriendly" Pine is, but you have yet to
suggest even one example of something better.  In words of one syllable:
put up, or shut up.

=== JJ =================================================================

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