civility: does it have anything to do with netiquette?

[Rich Littleton]

Kurt,

You old reprobate!  When you make a point, you DO make a point.  Yours was
a very good post.

About your comment on efficient use of the mail.  The e-mail teaching
outline I edited is light in that category.  If you, or anyone, directs me
to a source, I'll look at gathering some of the contents and running it by
the e-mail group to see about including it.

Again, good post.

Rich

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On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Kurt Cockrum wrote:

> After 3 or 4 ping-pong-style long replies to long postings, each e-mail
> on this list (as on most I'm subscribed to) is carrying a considerable
> load of historical baggage, specifically everything that has been
> previously appended to previous replies.  You can identify this when
> you see lines in your e-mail that begin with "> > > >..." and similar
> patterns.  It's time to *delete* that old garbage *before* you send it,
> so other people (some of whom have *saved* the old stuff, and hence have
> no *need* of an immediate reminder) aren't bothered.
> 
> I'm not saying that we should stop quoting stuff in our replies.  I am
> saying that it ought to be edited, so that *all* extraneous stuff is
> trimmed out.  Particularly, edit out the .sigs!  Nobody wants to see
> that crap, especially recycled.
> 
> Really, folks, if you are going to use e-mail, take the trouble to learn
> to use it effectively.  You are like a bunch of technophobic enviros
> worried about global warming, but driving stick-shift cars stuck in
> 1st gear because you don't know how to work the tranny/clutch combo.
> Read and learn your help screens!
> 
> E-mail trainers, how about getting on this?  It isn't enough to just
> teach people how to step-on-the-pedal and go, you should be teaching
> people what good practice is.  Maybe you do that already, for all I know.
> But if so, none of your graduates have subscribed to this list.
> 
> With regard to civility on this list, poor manners bother me a *lot*
> less than the ham-handed efforts of well-intentioned people to *deal*
> with bad manners, i. e. to be seen *doing* *something* by others (contra
> the Taoistic philosophy of "wu-wei", doing nothing).  Composing long lists
> of elaborate rules of punctilio exemplify this.  "There oughta be a law".
> And it *always* turns out worse than coping with the original problem.
> Look at Singapore, or some of the civic policies of the City of Seattle.
> 
> Lastly, thin-skinned, hypersensitive people are a pain-in-the-butt!
> Toughen up!  and lighten up!
> --kurt
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