SCN: Lawsuit

Rich Littleton be718 at scn.org
Wed Jul 5 22:43:36 PDT 2000


Hmmmm.  I think there's a message here.  Let's see, could it be "I don't
use my name because that's the kind of person I am.   And, I don't
want to examine the issues.  Sniping from the bushes is who I am."


Rich

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On Wed, 5 Jul 2000 bc500 at scn.org wrote:

> I seem to remember an adage I heard somewhere..."someone serving as his
> own attorney...has a fool for a client"  ...seems applicable to me.
> cheers
> have fun
> 
> On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Rich Littleton wrote:
> 
> > 
> > HERE I think JJ understands an underlying truth that others want to avoid.
> > (I wish he understood the SAME one I'm focussing on, but....).
> > 
> > JJ sees a rogue member de-stabilizing the organization.
> > 
> > I see de-stabilizing conduct by the ones running the organization.
> > 
> > Unfortunately, there aren't many options for JJ's position, except group
> > opinion.  He has been successful at energizing this, but it ultimately
> > does not have any control over my actions.  This is not said snidely;  it
> > is simply the reality limiting his options.
> > 
> > I ran out of options when attempting to undo the dismissal and so have
> > gone outside the organization to a different forum.  However, JJ's
> > concern that this will cost the organization is correct, if the
> > defendants in the suit get SCNA money.  It is likely that they will lose
> > the suit. 
> > 
> > As I see it, the only viable direction is to focus the light on the
> > performance of the miscreants and the current position of the current
> > board.  Are any corrective measures being taken?  Is anyone analyzing the
> > events that led to this?  Those are minimum steps to lead to some sort of
> > resolution.
> > 
> > Rich
> > 
> > ______________________________________________________________________
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, J. Johnson wrote:
> > 
> > > The essential, prerequisite basis of _community_ is _common_, as in a
> > > common (or shared) experience or knowledge.  And while I would not "hold
> > > any one's feet to the fire" to the extent of requiring anyone to read, let
> > > alone follow, all the excruciating twists and turns of the ostensible
> > > debate with Rich, I will argue that _everyone_ needs to know that there is
> > > a debate, as well as the character of that debate.  If you turn your back
> > > on this, if you choose to be oblivious to a long-running problem, then
> > > your participation in SCN is ill-informed, and you no longer share
> > > community with those of us that have been dealing with this problem for
> > > several years.  Is Rich off-base?  Only you can decide.
> > > 
> > > You don't have to read every message of "more explanation" that comes by. 
> > > But the issue needs public airing, so that everyone at least knows that
> > > there is an issue, or we might as well become just "SN". 
> > > 
> > > === JJ =================================================================
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Steve wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I vote to remove all further discussion of the lawsuit from this list, 
> > > > and confine it to personal communications among those parties who 
> > > > would like to continue the back-and-forth until death do they part.
> > > > [....]
> > > 
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