SCN: Re: Possible Roles for SCN -- and what we can do about it...

patrick clariun at yahoo.com
Thu Nov 1 09:30:07 PST 2001


If doing such things were not allowed, legally, then that would
probably fall under interpretting the letter of the law.

However, there is nothing to prevent volunteers from being
"motivated."

I certainly have a certain focus when it comes to profiling sites of
the month: I would not go out of my way to profile an organization
that is rolling in money. I'm more likely to profile a
site/organization that contributes to the community and has scarce
resources and can't spend a lot of time and money to bring attention
to iself. Like BikeWorks, which is hosted on SCN. 

But this is more of a tendency, but it is a certain focus.

And ICT (Information and Communication Technology): This is what SCN
and the digital community is all about.

As for: 5.    Agitate for socially responsible ICT policy locally,
regionally, and beyond. SCN does this indirectly, as any
non-commercial site would do.

Patrick



--- Lorraine Pozzi <femme2 at scn.scn.org> wrote:
> 
> Non-profit status is NOT the problem.  Being a non-profit does not
> prevent
> SCN/SCNA from doing the things that Doug suggests.  Focussing on
> the 
> non-problem would use up some of SCN's scarce resources. 
> 
> Lorraine
> ----------------------------------
> On Wed, 31 Oct 2001, emailer1 wrote:
> 
> > I agree with Doug.
> > 
> > I would put two ideas first.  After those two things, the rest
> would become
> > doable.
> > 
> > First thing:  Become a stable ISP (internet hookup entity).  That
> might
> > require charging $5.00 per person per month but then we could
> give up the
> > non-profit status and do some high-powered lobbying.
> > 
> > Our non-profit status blocks us completely from doing numbers
> number 5, and
> > seriously cripples us from doing 1, 7, 8, and 9.
> > 
> > THEN, I would make sure that the SCNA e-mail was (a) as easy
> Outlook (could
> > use Outlook) and (b) was HTML able.
> > 
> > After that, we would gather members like lawns gathering leaves
> in fall.
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Doug Schuler <douglas at scn.org>
> > To: <scn at scn.org>
> > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 3:42 PM
> > Subject: SCN: Possible Roles for SCN -- and what we can do about
> it...
> > 
> > 
> > > Possible Roles for SCN -- and what we can do about it...
> > >
> > > SCNites,
> > >
> > > I've compiled a quick note which I think (HOPE!) may help us
> now and in
> > > the future.
> > >
> > > The first part of the note is a brief list of all of the
> possible roles
> > > for SCN I could think of this morning over my second cup of
> coffee.
> > >
> > > After this list I make a simple suggestion that I think could
> (help)
> > > guide further development on SCN.  I'd love to know what you
> think.
> > >
> > >
> > >  ------------------ possible roles for SCN --
> > > (PS.  there are many others -- let me know what they are and
> I'll add
> > them)
> > 
> > > [Note, I added numbers to Doug's list.]
> > 
> > > 1.    Assume a place at the table for developing city /
> regional / state
> > (and
> > > other?) ICT initiatives and policy.  (ICT = "information and
> > > communication technology)
> > >
> > > 2.    Provide low / no cost ICT services (email, listservs, web
> pages,
> > etc.)
> > >
> > > 3.    Provide useful civic and community content on our web
> site (and
> > other
> > > places?)
> > >
> > > 4.    Provide portal to Seattle community / civic information,
> > applications
> > > and services
> > >
> > > 5.    Agitate for socially responsible ICT policy locally,
> regionally, and
> > > beyond
> > >
> > > 6.    Perform training and other pubic education
> > >
> > > 7.    Help define and develop future community / civic
> information,
> > > applications and services
> > >
> > > 8.    Work with community / civic groups to develop relevant
> ICT
> > applications
> > > and services
> > >
> > > 9.    Take part in regional, national, and international
> coalitions to
> > > advance community / civic ICT goals.
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > > If we asked everybody in SCN to prioritize these possible roles
> > > I'm assuming that we'd have some champions for each and every
> one of
> > > these roles.
> > >
> > > So which of these roles should we as SCN volunteers address?
> > >
> > > ALL OF THEM.
> > >
> > > But, people will say, we don't have the resources to do ALL OF
> THEM.
> > > That's right!  We don't have the resources AT THE MOMENT to do
> all of
> > > them.  So, at this point in time let's not do ALL of them.  In
> fact, at
> > > any given point in time, let's just focus on the ones in which
> we have
> > > volunteers who are willing to do the work.
> > >
> > > We have to realize that ALL of these issues are important and
> that they
> > > together form a coherent body of work that SCN stands for.
> > >
> > > We have, in fact, worked on all of them, at one time or
> another.
> > >
> > > I'm not against setting priorities.  We have to do that!  But
> that
> > > shouldn't be used as an excuse to rule out a relevant piece of
> work.
> > >
> > > Let's do the limited amount of work that we can do.  The way I
> see it,
> > > however, there is no reason to ban certain activities.  The
> situation
> > > is dynamic -- we need to be dynamic as well!
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > -- Doug
> > >
> > >
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