SCN: Re: Re: Fwd: Kyoto Pact to Prompt Big Changes (without the US)

[Malcolm Taran]

Thank you.
We really need to help each other catch the unintended
assumptions, and consequences.  The world is complex
enough.  Whatever professionals, physicists, and
craftsmen, for example, each need rely on each other to 
contribute their insight.

On Sun, 11 Nov 2001, David Barts wrote:
> melissa roberts <getmelissa at circlesys.com> writes:
> 
> > [snip!]
> > That means old houses should have their electrical wiring redone, their
>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> Um, no it doesn't.  The resistive loss from a length of No. 14 copper
> wire manufactured in 1901 is exactly the same as the loss from the same
> length of No. 14 wire manufactured in 2001.
> 
> There may be safety issues for having old wiring upgraded (these often
> tend to be exaggerated, however -- there's plenty of buildings out
> there whose wires are entering their second century of trouble-free
> use). [...]
> 
* New doesn't necessarily mean better, 
* old doesn't necessarily mean in the way.
* The quality of many an old building -- or house -- cannot be replaced
for less than a greater fortune in love and money.

> Of course, adding more capacity facilitates the consumption of more
> electricity -- just the opposite of the goal being promoted by this
> article!  It might be a good incentive for conservation to NOT upgrade
> and to learn to scale back one's use so those fuses don't blow.
> [snip]

melissa roberts <getmelissa at circlesys.com> writes
> As a result, mountain ridges and coastlines are likely to sprout
> plantations of steel windmills.

* The Pacific Northwest coastline or Cascade mountains, anyone?
* (Or anywhere else still even a little wild or untamed?)
* Driven by consumption of ever more electricity, 
this would hardly be a desireable alternative.

Malcolm Taran

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