SCN: Re: SCN's web front page
patrick
clariun at yahoo.com
Mon Sep 17 08:54:15 PDT 2001
I'm not certain what is used, but I will investigate today.
Patrick
--- Randy Groves <randy at scn.org> wrote:
>
> I definitely like the idea!
>
> That site looks very interesting. Any idea what is used on that
> site?
> I'be been out of circulation SCN-wise for a while, so I don't know
> what
> CGI's might be available.
>
> -randy
>
>
> On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, patrick wrote:
>
> > Hi Randy,
> >
> > Thank you for the feedback. I greatly appreciate it.
> >
> > I was wondering if we could look into implementing, or at least
> > investigating, a community bulletin board for the site. This in
> line
> > with providing more content for the site and making SCN more of a
> > destination. It was mentioned that SCN has three CGIs available
> on
> > it's system to provide this feature.
> >
> > An example of a community bulletin board provided to me:
> >
> > http://faculty.washington.edu/jimward/
> >
> > Thanks much,
> > Patrick
> > Webmaster/Web Team Coordinator
> >
> >
> > --- Randy Groves <randy at scn.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thank you Patrick, for being able to see the path ahead through
> the
> > > thorns
> > > that we and situations seem to be throwing in your way.
> > >
> > > I appreciate your efforts and your willingness to persevere.
> > >
> > > If there is anything that we in Operations can do to assist or
> make
> > > the
> > > situation less onerous, please let us and/or me know, and we'll
> see
> > > what
> > > we can do.
> > >
> > > -randy
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, patrick wrote:
> > >
> > > > I think we should not make a mountain out of a molehill.
> > > >
> > > > rwrap is intended to archive page changes and to track who
> > > changed
> > > > what on this multi-person system.
> > > >
> > > > It is not a big deal and it is a minor quibble. Sure, I would
> > > love to
> > > > just ftp a file up, but rwrap is not an issue. What is a big
> deal
> > > is
> > > > getting familiar with the vi editor or pico, neither of which
> I
> > > love
> > > > with a passion. Neither of which require a large amount of
> > > training
> > > > to learn.
> > > >
> > > > I did run into a small problem with updating the page in
> > > reference to
> > > > rwrap. I emailed JJ on in just a moment ago and it should be
> > > fixed
> > > > pretty quickly.
> > > >
> > > > I hope that people don't feel I am taking sides and being
> > > opinionated
> > > > on this topic. I am saying that there are, of course, only a
> > > couple
> > > > of people, at the most, who will be updating the homepage.
> With
> > > that,
> > > > rwrap should be of little concern to anyone else.
> > > >
> > > > The homepage will be updated as quickly as possible.
> > > >
> > > > Patrick
> > > > Webmaster/Web Team Coordinator
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Lorraine Pozzi <femme2 at scn.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know what's going on lately. I do know that I
> offered
> > > > > to take over some of the tasks that NancyK had been doing
> > > > > before she died and was given such an absurd runaround that
> > > > > I finally decided it was pointless to volunteer. Among
> other
> > > > > requirements - I had to speak directly with Nancy!
> > > > >
> > > > > I am not surprised that SCN is hurting for cash. In fact,
> > > > > when I saw the money plea, I thought I knew just how
> > > > > Dr. Lewinski felt when the Democratic Party asked for his
> > > > > check.
> > > > >
> > > > > Lorraine
> > > > > -------------------
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Rod Clark wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Randy Groves wrote:
> > > > > > > 'rwrap' is NOT required. It was suggested as a tool,
> to
> > > > > provide backup in
> > > > > > > case of errors - NOT required.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There have been NO restrictions imposed, either
> > > > > programmatically nor by
> > > > > > > policy that removes the ability to edit files with vi,
> > > pico,
> > > > > etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Randy,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That is not true, on both counts. The home page has
> total
> > > > > > no-write permissions for the members of the topics group,
> who
> > > if
> > > > > > your ststement were true would have write access to edit
> it
> > > with
> > > > > > pico or other text editors. But they do NOT have that
> access.
> > > > > > See for yourself:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 4 -r-xr-xr-x 1 guests topics 3728 Aug 21 13:12
> > > > > index.html*
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The ONLY way that the home page can be updated is by
> using
> > > > > > rwrap. You are misleading everyone when you say this is
> > > > > > optional.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is also now required by policy to use rwrap. I
> asked
> > > the
> > > > > > acting Executive Director on Thursday, "Will you remove
> rwrap
> > > so
> > > > > > that Patrick can update the home page?" The answer was
> "no."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Because Patrick couldn't FTP the home page file last
> week
> > > > > > (because of the no-write permissions that block FTP), he
> > > asked
> > > > > > me for help with rwrap, which I tried to give him based
> on my
> > > > > > recollection of an earlier version of rwrap, but it
> wasn't
> > > > > > enough to get the page up. The page still isn't up. And
> this
> > > is
> > > > > > the actual, truthful reason. That is the answer to the
> > > question
> > > > > > that the three volunteers - Irene, Lee and Elaine - asked
> on
> > > > > > this list.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Communicating with ourselves, and with all the
> volunteers,
> > > is
> > > > > > vitally important, and it can't be left to the PR efforts
> of
> > > > > > only a few people in top positions. You and I both were
> > > confused
> > > > > > about this, because of the lack of forthright
> communications
> > > > > > with volunteers about the situation. Content is being
> > > sacrificed
> > > > > > because technical considerations like this are being
> placed
> > > > > > first by a leadership with a too-stubborn technical
> focus.
> > > And
> > > > > > this is the future of SCN's site, and of SCN itself,
> before
> > > our
> > > > > > eyes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rod Clark
> > > > > >
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