SCN: Re: principles

[J. Johnson]

I am indeed a little confused here.  Let's sort it out.

To the extent that people access SCN _from_ the Internet they implicitly
_already have_ access _to_ the Internet, independently of SCN.  It seems
to me that you're saying we should provide Internet access to those that
already have it. 

The "particular advantage" of accessing SCN via dialup is for the inverse
case of those (like myself) that otherwise are without access to the
Internet.  For sure it has its limitations, but if (as has been suggested) 
we dropped the dailup lines then reaching SCN would be subordinate to
reaching the Internet, which would be conditioned on paying monthly fees
to the likes of Qwest/AT&T/MCI/AOL/etc. 

One interpretation of what you may be saying is that SCN provide some
_other_ kind of access to the Internet as would permit full graphic
browers _back_ to SCN.  Well, if you're talking about some sort of walk-up
kiosk, to a large extent we already have that.  If you're talking about
accessing the Internet and/or SCN (with full graphics) from home, well,
that's either broadband (Qwest...) or--dialup!  And if we had the Internet
connection for doing that (and were set up for it) it could be done
directly, without any kind of backtracking.  But perhaps this wasn't what
you meant.

(Such considerations all tending back the original question of purpose.)

=== JJ =============================================================

On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, Joe Mabel wrote:

> You misunderstood me.  I meant that now anyone with access to the Internet has 
> access to SCN.  There is no paticular advantage to anyone to get to SCN any 
> other way than via the Internet.  So if we give them access to the Internet, owe 
> have just given them access to SCN. There is no partiulcar advantage to coming 
> at SCN through an SCN dialup.  In fact, there is what I (and Isuspect most 
> users) would consider a distinct disadvantage: lack of a visual browser.
> 
> --------------------
> Joe Mabel
> 
> On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, J. Johnson wrote:
> 
> > I don't think I'd agree with your statement that "access to SCN merely
> > means access to the Internet".  There was some discussion a ways back
> > about whether SCN should "be an on-ramp to the Internet".  (That could be
> > taken several ways, e.g.:  be a non-Internet local BBS, or be a rest-stop
> > on the Internet but with no local access.)  But I don't think we want to
> > be "merely" an on-ramp.
> > 
> > === JJ =============================================================
> > 
> > On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, Joe Mabel wrote:
> > 
> > > [SNIP]
> > > >      * We will make the SCN accessible from public places.
> > > [SNIP]
> > > 
> > > How long since the Board, or some other appropriate body, gave any thought to 
> > > what this now means? Now that access to SCN merely means access to the Internet, 
> > > what (if anything) are we doing to enhance the availability of access to the 
> > > Internet in pubic places?
> > > 
> > > JM
> > > 
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