SCN: logo ideas

[Doug Schuler]

I shudder to think about our society when one can't use
the word "democracy" in a meaningful way.

Yes, people have marketed "technology" very heavily so that
it sounds very cool.  I'm more interested in REAL democracy
than I am in cool technology.  

-- Doug

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On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, patrick fisher wrote:

> Doug,
> 
> I don't know. I have found the word "democratic" to be too broad,
> flaky, and misused so much that it has little meaning to me. It's like
> that stupid word "Freedom". Not sure what that means anymore...
> 
> I think "Powering Our Communities with Technology" is right on the
> money and I think it sounds pretty cool.
> 
> Especially in light of the fact that yesterday's NY Times has a cool
> article on the Wi-Fi networks going up in Manhattan, SF and elsewhere.
> Now, THERE is powering your communities with technology!
> 
> Patrick
> 
> 
> --- Doug Schuler <douglas at scn.org> wrote:
> > 
> > I don't like the logo change idea and I don't like the 
> > slogan change idea.
> > 
> > "Democratic Technology for all" is more inclusive and broad.
> > 
> > "Powering our communities with technology" is technocratic.
> > 
> > I would think that we'd rather put the emphasis on DEMOCRACY
> > not on TECHNOLOGY.
> > 
> > Can somebody remind me why this is happening?
> > 
> > -- Doug
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> > 
> > On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, patrick fisher wrote:
> > 
> > > Joe,
> > > 
> > > Thanks for the comments. The logo issue is out of my hands, as far as I know.
> > > 
> > > There will be a different slogan. I think it is: Powering Our Communities with
> > > Technology.
> > > 
> > > It would be nice, as you say, to have different variations of the logos for
> > > different uses.
> > > 
> > > I will put the PDF up on a web page. I will have to take a screen sshot and past
> > it
> > > as an image, though.
> > > 
> > > Thanks!
> > > Patrick
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- Joe Mabel <jmabel at speakeasy.org> wrote:
> > > > Any logo with relatively small letters in the design (e.g. the "democratic 
> > > > technology for all" writtenrat the bottom) is liable to scale down badly.  
> > > > Before adopting it, we should play with how it scales down and consider
> > whether 
> > > > it will be acceptable at the smallsst size we intend to use.
> > > > 
> > > > One standard solution to this is to adopt several variations of a logo 3-5 
> > > > different sizes, possibly a color and a B&W version at each size.  Major
> > graphic 
> > > > elements should stay the same, but details may vary: for example, text might
> > not 
> > > > be exactly proportional at the different sizes, to improve readability.
> > > > 
> > > > In any event, rather than sending candidate logos out by PDF through email, 
> > > > can't we please post them on SCN itself somewhere & have one central place 
> > > > people can look at the possibiities?
> > > > 
> > > > That said, I do sense a bit af rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic here: 
> > > > Except for people who have no other SCN activities they can contribute to,
> > this 
> > > > seems like a pretty low-return use of volunteer time.  I would not put a new 
> > > > logo among SCN's 50 greatest needs at the moment.
> > > > 
> > > > --------------------
> > > > Joe Mabel
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, patrick fisher wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Here are some logo ideas in PDF format.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Please make specific, exact comments on what you like or do not like
> > > > > about the logos. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Everyone's comments will be taken into consideration.
> > > > > 
> > > > > If PDF does not work for you, please let me know and I will work
> > > > > something out.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > Patrick
> > > > > 
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