SCN: Prarienet.org - community network - check it out

[Joe Mabel]

I would suspect that we do not want to losesthe library as our web hosting site: 
they have been very god about our no-censorship approach. However, for all otheo 
purposes, the UW seems to me to be potentially as likely a partner as the 
Library.

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Joe Mabel

On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, Doug Schuler wrote:

> 
> JJ et al,
> 
> I've always been in favor of at least looking into various types
> of "strategic alliances" and one with, say, a UW department
> is one of the ones that I'd be most interested in looking into.
> A model like the one JJ mentioned would obviously be undesirable
> but there may be partnership models that really worked to
> both party's advantage.  After all, SCN and SPL have a 
> fairly reasonable partnering arrangement that seems to work 
> to both of advantage.
> 
> As with other ideas that would have a wide impact this would
> have to be studied.  I think that members would like to see
> pros and cons before any sort of decision would be made.  If
> people were interested in this they'd need to set up some of
> study group to do so (IMO).
> 
> -- doug
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> On Mon, 25 Mar 2002, J. Johnson wrote:
> 
> > Au contraire.  I think that the "university structure" of "business" model
> > could work quite well for SCN.  We "merely" find enough well placed people
> > at the U. who have influence (I presume at least professors here) and
> > access to resources (such as facilities, bandwidth, paid staff, etc.), and
> > have them take over.  Oh, and re-write the articles of incorporation. 
> > 
> > Of course, then it wouldn't be SCN any more.
> > 
> > === JJ =============================================================
> > 
> > On Mon, 25 Mar 2002, emailer1 wrote:
> > 
> > >  Actually, this is an assumption (that the university structure means that
> > > Prairienet's methods won't work for SCNA).  It sounds to me like the methods
> > > of this group should be thoroughly investigated, to the point of -- when
> > > enough has been learned -- having Patrick and others from the Ops Committee
> > > fly out and spend a few days talking to these folks.  In one way or another,
> > > they have accomplished what SCNA has not been able to do:  (1) PPP
> > > capability;  (2) much better level of financial support; and (3) paid staff.
> > > It is possible that very little of their methods willl apply to SCNA, but it
> > > is important to do an in-depth examination of them IN CASE they have much to
> > > show us.
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: J. Johnson <jj at scn.org>
> > > To: <scn at scn.org>
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 11:38 PM
> > > Subject: Re: SCN: Prarienet.org - community network - check it out
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > So looking over several examples of nominally successful not-for-profit
> > > > ISP and similar entities shows a trend:  their "business" model is to
> > > > associate with some large school where there is a lot of money, excess
> > > > bandwidth, facilities, and cheap graduate students, and no particular
> > > > concern about meeting quarterly profit targets.
> > > >
> > > > === JJ =============================================================
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