From bk846 at scn.org Wed May 1 13:43:45 2002 From: bk846 at scn.org (Bill Scott) Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 13:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: SCN: telnet access on Eastside In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > OK, tried a little more experimentation to be sure and got the usual > "--except when...." kind of answer. As far as I can see from trying at two > KCLS libraries (Skyway and Kent Regional) you can't get telnet access just > by typing "telnet:// " but on many, but not all, of their computers > designated for internet access when you go to the" infonet " from > www.kcls.org there is a choice called "gateway to the internet" which > allows you to go to SCN, SPL , UW and a few other places. I'm sure that it > is using the telnet function to do that but it is done in their gateway > program not by the user. I would guess that the easiest way would be to > rename "telnet" to something else that the sysadmin chose to call the same > program and have it work from clicking a box or something like that rather than actually typing in a command. I suspect that like many similar setups the person maintaining the system has done some things to block TELNET but that there are hidden spots where it functions as part of a utility that the current sysadmin may not even know about. I use only library computers ( Seattle, King County, Renton Public Library) since I don't have one at home and have found that there are differences between the computers at the same branch and significant ones when you change buildings or go to one run by a different library system. For all this rambling the point is that with a bit of investigation the person who needed to access SCN from the Eastside should be able to do so either through INFONET on the KCLS website or Gateway to the Internet(text-only) on some catalog terminals. I have managed to get in several different ways (and occasionally failed at certain terminals/locations). I've lost track of who the person who needed access was but if he/she would like on site help just send me a direct note and we can work out a time to meet at one of the libraries that he/she would be using. Bill Scott bk846 > > On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, patrick fisher wrote: > > > Okay,will further clarify: > > > > No telnet is available at the libraries. You can telnet from home. That is the only > > way I can get in, because the Java browser for the library is too clunky. > > > > At the library, instead of telnet, at some of the terminals at least, you can > > "telnet" (not a telnet program), you can log into a number of services. > > > > Patrick > > > > > > --- Randy Groves wrote: > > > > > > I just tried it here from home - when I click on 'Infonet Catalog' on my > > > Mac, NCSA Telnet starts up. Same thing on my PC. So I'm assuming, unless > > > something is different in the libraries, that is what is happening there > > > too. So, if they've disabled Telnet, then this wouldn't work. Of course, > > > they could be using a different address and web page inside the libraries. > > > I haven't had the opportunity to get on one recently. > > > > > > BTW - watch out what you type - I was surprised at what I found at > > > www.kcls.com ... > > > > > > -randy > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, patrick fisher wrote: > > > > > > > To be specific, there is not a telnet program, but a text browser where you can > > > log > > > > into 3 community networks or the Seattle Public Library (from the KCLS > > > libraries.) > > > > > > > Bill Scott bk846 at scn.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn ==== Messages posted on this list are also available on the web at: ==== * * * * * * * http://www.scn.org/volunteers/scn-l/ * * * * * * * From scoth at scn.org Wed May 1 19:44:31 2002 From: scoth at scn.org (Scot Harkins on scn.org) Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 19:44:31 -0700 Subject: SCN: telnet access on Eastside References: Message-ID: <00b801c1f183$4cd93e40$028cc5ce@mshome.net> To summarize all the comments... Direct outside (non-KCTS) telnet from KCLS computers is blocked. Internal telnet to Infonet is still active, which gives a route to SCN. The KCLS computers still use the telnet program (not renamed) that comes with Windows; they simply do not allow use of telnet to any but KCLS Infonet. Here's hoping they don't follow SPL's lead in cutting useful telnet access altogether. Access from Seattle Parks and Rec recreation centers is not clear. I have emailed them to find out (I'm not local to a Seattle rec center), though the rule would be if, from a rec PC, one could click on "Infonet Catalog" on www.kcls.org page and get a telnet window then a path exists to SCN (again via Infonet). Does King County have rec centers with computer access? Scot -- Scot Harkins (KA5KDU) Greenbank, WA, US Phone: 360-678-5880 Email: scoth at bigfoot.com URL -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn ==== Messages posted on this list are also available on the web at: ==== * * * * * * * http://www.scn.org/volunteers/scn-l/ * * * * * * * From kkinfonet at ahpcorp.com Thu May 2 02:49:56 2002 From: kkinfonet at ahpcorp.com (triPartnership) Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 05:49:56 -0400 Subject: SCN: Question about your services. lgfhf Message-ID: <200205020951.CAA19907@scn.org> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at advocate.net Fri May 3 08:44:06 2002 From: steve at advocate.net (Steve) Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 08:44:06 -0700 Subject: SCN: LL Message-ID: <3CD24DD6.30929.1E65A77@localhost> x-no-archive: yes ====================== (BusinessWeek)---Who should control the Internet? If Stanford University law professor Lawrence Lessig is right, the Internet will soon belong to Hollywood studios, record labels, and cable operators -- corporate giants that he says are trying to cordon off chunks of the once-open data network. Lessig's mission is to stop them. At age 40, he's already the Net's most famous freedom fighter. Since 1995, he has been a seminal thinker on many of the Digital Age's most important battles -- the AOL-Time Warner merger, Napster, and the Microsoft antitrust case. In his latest book, The Future of Ideas: The Fate of the Commons in a Connected World, Lessig argues that imminent changes to Internet architecture plus court decisions that restrict the use of intellectual property will co-opt the Net on behalf of Establishment players -- and stifle innovation. On Apr. 29, Lessig spoke with BusinessWeek Online Technology reporter Jane Black about what he sees as some disturbing trends. Here are edited excerpts of that conversation: Q: You argue that the Internet's popularity as a new medium is a result of its open architecture. How do you see this changing? And are the changes a threat to e-business? A: There are two places where it's changing. One is at the physical level of the network. As we move from narrowband to broadband [access to the Net], broadband operators are developing technology that gives them control over applications and content on the network. Cable companies, for example, have a view of what the network should be used for. And they're beginning to pick and choose what kinds of content will flow quickly as a way of favoring -- or not favoring -- content providers. For instance, perhaps cable companies can make it more difficult [for Web sites] to use streaming video if that interferes with their video business. It's your father's AT&T all over again: They, not the user, decide what the network should be. Q: What's the result of a controlled network? A: The cost of innovation goes up significantly. Before, you just had to worry about complying with basic network protocol. Now you have to worry about making your program run on the full range of proprietary systems and devices connected to the network. Before, the network would serve whoever and whatever people wanted it to. Soon, you will need the permission of network owners. Think about other platforms in our lives, like the highway system. Imagine if General Motors could build the highway system such that GM trucks ran better on it than Ford trucks. Or think about the electrical grid. Imagine if a Sony TV worked better on it than a Panasonic TV. The highway and electricity grids are all neutral platforms -- a common standard that everyone builds on top of. That's an extraordinarily important feature for networks to have. Q: And the second change that threatens e-business? A: Dominant media is a huge threat. [Record labels and Hollywood studios] make their money because of the control they assert over the production and distribution of artists' work. In the music business, a handful of companies control more than 80% of the music in the world. These companies control not just distribution but a market where artists have to sell their souls to a record label just to have a right to develop music that can be distributed. That's the model for the last century. The economic reasons that might have justified that tightly controlled structure have disappeared. The Internet can support much greater competition in production and distribution than [is possible with] the dominant five companies. The record labels have launched lawsuits against every company that has a model for distributing [music and entertainment] content they can't control. That has sent a clear message to venture capitalists: Don't deploy a technology that we don't approve of, or we will sue you into the Dark Ages. The result is that the field has been left to dinosaurs. There would have been more chips, computers, and devices to deliver content if Congress had been more keen to allow innovation to occur. We've given control over the future to exactly the wrong people. And before we know it, the possibility for innovation will have disappeared. Q: Why is it so difficult to head off these moves? A: One reason is that Washington surrounds itself with the same people all the time -- [Motion Picture Association of America President] Jack Valenti and [Recording Industry Association of America President] Hillary Rosen. They've succeeded in making Washington believe this is a binary choice -- between perfect protection or no protection. No one is seriously arguing for no protection. They are arguing for a balance that avoids the phenomenon we are seeing now -- one where the last generation of technology controls the next generation of industry. In fact, there are lots of solutions that would promote innovation. For example, Congress could do what it has always done -- establish a flat compulsory licensing fee [such as the one radio stations pay to music publishers for playing their songs] so that any company can compete in the marketplace. That's what Napster [the free-music sharing Web site the recording industry sued out of existence] asked Washington for all along -- a compulsory license. That could deal with 80% of the problem of existing content. But these solutions are never recognized because, while the future under perfect competition would produce an industry with much greater income to artists and greater opportunities to consumers, the fact is that the concentrated players are going to lose. The problem is, we've given control of the future to the people who will lose even under best possible plan. It's like giving the communists control over the future of the new Russia. Congress continues to have them come down and testify. And they step forward and say they want communism to be protected for the next 100 years. Q: The current debate over Web radio is a good example. New fees that the U.S. copyright office has mandated threaten to put small Webcasters out of business. A: Web radio is a perfect example. In the course of its testimony before the CARP hearings [the Copyright Arbitration Royalty Panel, the government group responsible for setting compulsory license fee for Webcasters] the RIAA argued that higher rates would reduce the number of competitors to four or five big players. That's their model: To wipe out diversity and get back to a place where only a few people control delivery. I understand why they want that. But I don't understand why Congress is giving it to them. And it's not just the fees that are ridiculously high -- it's the data collection that has been mandated [by CARP and is awaiting approval]. If the RIAA has its way, Webcasters would have to report every song that every listener heard. In essence, it asks to create a national police state of music listening by forcing Webcasters to collect data and turn it over to copyright holders. My question is: Why? It kills competition and the development of niche markets. This is a classic example where the legal process is being used to destroy creativity and innovation. Q: What should Washington do? A: First in context of copyright, Congress should pass low fixed compulsory license fees for distribution of [music and entertainment] content on the Web. Those fees should not be tied to reporting every usage on the Web. They should be determined the same way they are now for radio -- according to a sampling that gives some idea of what music is being played. Second, Congress should repeal the 1998 DMCA [Digital Millennium Copyright Act, which, among other things makes it a crime to circumvent copyright-protection technology]. We have no reason to believe that the market won't work well enough to prevent abuse. We don't need the federal government threatening prosecution. Finally, Congress needs to not pass new legislation, like the [recently introduced] Hollings' bill that would mandate a police state in every computer [by requiring that copyright-protection mechanisms be embedded in PCs, CD players, and anything else that can play, record, or manipulate data]. Q: Do we need a new definition or vision of copyright and intellectual property in order for e-business to move forward? A: We don't need a new vision. We just need to recognize what the traditional vision has been. The traditional vision protects copyright owners from unfair competition. It has never been a way to give copyright holders perfect control over how consumers use content. We need to make sure that pirates don't set up CD pressing plants or competing entities that sell identical products. We need to stop worrying about whether you or I use a song on your PC and then transfer it your MP3 player. Copyright 2000-2002, The McGraw-Hill Companies Inc. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn ==== Messages posted on this list are also available on the web at: ==== * * * * * * * http://www.scn.org/volunteers/scn-l/ * * * * * * * From douglas at scn.org Fri May 3 10:29:31 2002 From: douglas at scn.org (Doug Schuler) Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 10:29:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: SCN: Re: DIAC Workshop CfP: PD of Info/Comm Infrastructures (fwd) Message-ID: FYI This is one event that will take place at DIAC-02 that is particularly focused on community networks. -- Doug ****************************************************************** * SHAPING THE NETWORK SOCIETY * * Patterns for Participation, Action, and Change * * http://www.cpsr.org/conferences/diac02 * * Tomorrow's information and communication infrastructure * * is being shaped today. * * But by whom and to what ends? * * Seattle: May 16-19 * * Questions: diac02-info at cpsr.org * ****************************************************************** (Please forward and re-post as appropriate) PARTICIPATORY DESIGN OF INFORMATION/COMMUNICATIONS INFRASTRUCTURES A call for workshop participation. See: http://www.fis.utoronto.ca/research/iprp/pdworkshop This is an invitation to contribute to a two-part workshop to be held in conjunction with two conferences: "Shaping the Network Society" symposium (DIAC 2002) Seattle, May 16- 19. http://www.cpsr.org/conferences/diac02/ Workshop date: May 18 Participatory Design Conference (PDC 02) Malmo, Sweden, June 23-25. http://pdc2002.interactiveinstitute.se/ Workshop date: June 24 Participants can attend either one or both of the workshop sessions. Themes Public participation in the development of information/communications infrastructures is both necessary and extraordinarily challenging. Information/communications infrastructures come in many forms. The concept is broad, encompassing community networks, national ID schemes, privacy regulations, broadband networks, accessibility policies, classification schemes (see Bowker and Star), network protocols, public kiosks, as well as many other services and facilities we tend to take for granted once developed. The unifying idea is that infrastructures should be widely available and useful for a variety of public interest purposes. To work well they need to be readily at hand to fit a wide range of everyday tasks, yet be largely out of sight and mind when not needed so they don�t get in the way. The desiderata for good infrastructures pose contradictory implications for design. On the one hand, for them to fit well with the way people live, they need to be adapted through many iterations of trial and refinement by their users. Also, since they are needed for everyday life, people have a vital stake in their development and hence a right to be heard in their design. On the other hand, the inherent features of infrastructure pose severe challenges to effective participation of their users (and citizens generally) in their creation and maintenance. Information/communications infrastructures typically are large, distributed, expensive and complex. In their crucial formative stages, those few with a strong financial interest enjoy disproportionate influence in their development. Once infrastructures are established, their desired invisibility then discourages careful attention to refinement and maintenance, until the breakdowns become widespread and seemingly intractable. Their inherent unwieldiness discourages the long-term engagement necessary to accomplish significant improvements. Many people have a stake but in differing ways, so consensus is hard to achieve, particularly when participation is broadly based. Sometimes public involvement in infrastructure development is oppositional, aimed at stopping proposals that many people view as threatening (such as resisting the development of privacy invasive population identification schemes). While this may simplify the issues as well as the participatory process, it still leaves open the often thornier question of exploring what positive alternatives could be in the public interest. But this paints too bleak a picture. It is important to observe that some very good infrastructures have been developed, reflecting the artfully integrated diverse contributions of many people. How has this been achieved? Each particular infrastructure development offers its own set of opportunities and constraints that may be exploited. How can we learn to read these situations and find effective ways to engage with others in developing infrastructures that work well for as many people as possible, and that can evolve as needs shift? These are the central questions this workshop explores. Goals The main purpose of this workshop is to enable people who are actively concerned with some form of information/communications infrastructure development to get to know each other better and learn from each other�s experiences. This will be done through the sharing of individually contributed short position statements, first circulated before the workshop and then presented and discussed at the workshop. These individual positions will provide the basis for the drafting of a summary statement on the central workshop themes. This summary would be reported to the DIAC symposium participants and passed to the PDC workshop a month later for similar discussion, refinement and reporting. The final summary statement, along with selected individual revised position statements, would then be offered for publication in a special issue of the CPSR Journal or other suitable publishing venue. A secondary purpose of the workshop is to help link these two CPSR- sponsored events and their distinctive but compatible themes. Also, it is to encourage the participation of Europeans who can't make it to DIAC and North Americans who can't make it to PDC. Organizer Andrew Clement Coordinator, Information Policy Research Program Director, Collaborative Graduate Program in Knowledge Media Design Professor, Faculty of Information Studies University of Toronto 140 St. George Street Toronto, ON Canada M5S 3G6 +1 416 978-3111 (office) +1 416 971-1399 (fax) clement at fis.utoronto.ca http://www.fis.utoronto.ca/research/iprp The topic of this workshop is close to my research interests in participatory design and information policy development. I have previously organized similar workshops at CSCW, Interact, IFIP W9.1 (Computers and Work) conferences and other research events. Participants Prospective participants are asked to submit 2-5 page position papers, as RTF or HTML files, following the instructions available at the workshop website: http://www.fis.utoronto.ca/research/iprp/pdworkshop Position statements should report experiences with or reflections on the participation of users/citizenry in developing some aspect of information/communications infrastructures. In particular, participants are asked to highlight the relevant challenges facing public participation mentioned above and what can be learned for future participatory initiatives. In addition, short bios should be included that highlight the participant�s relevant background and affiliations, as well as contact information. The position statements and bios will be circulated in advance to all workshop participants at both conferences via a password protected area of the workshop website. These statements will form the basis of the workshop presentations, discussions and summary reports. Until after the workshops, the position statements and bios will only be available to those who have expressed an interest in participating in the workshops. Depending on the workshop discussions, access may then be made more widely available. Participation is by invitation only, with a maximum currently set at 15 participants. If space is available after those submitting position statements have been invited, then further invitations will be based on those who have expressed an interest in participating and have sent a short bio, preferably before the submission date. Submission deadlines For DIAC conference: May 8. Notifications by May 11. For PDC conference: June 1. Notifications by June 10. The early registration deadline for this conference is May 1 Instructions for submitting position statements and bios can be found at: http://www.fis.utoronto.ca/research/iprp/pdworkshop Queries should be addressed to: iprp at fis.utoronto.ca * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn ==== Messages posted on this list are also available on the web at: ==== * * * * * * * http://www.scn.org/volunteers/scn-l/ * * * * * * * From rose at china.com Sat May 4 00:00:41 2002 From: rose at china.com (rose at china.com) Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 00:00:41 Subject: SCN: ADV:Harvest lots of Target Email address quickly Message-ID: <200205031733.KAA01938@scn.org> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jj at scn.org Sat May 4 02:57:31 2002 From: jj at scn.org (J. Johnson) Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 02:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: SCN: Access to the net. Message-ID: Lawrence Lessig's comments on the future of the Internet (see also the not quite current issue of Scientific American) are also appropriate to the recent discussion here regarding SCN's principles. In brief, access to the Internet is becoming concentrated in a few large companies, primarily cable companies. Lessig explores several intereting outcomes. === JJ ============================================================= * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn ==== Messages posted on this list are also available on the web at: ==== * * * * * * * http://www.scn.org/volunteers/scn-l/ * * * * * * * From clariun at yahoo.com Sun May 5 01:54:00 2002 From: clariun at yahoo.com (patrick fisher) Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 01:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: SCN: home page Message-ID: <20020505085400.48259.qmail@web13207.mail.yahoo.com> Some of you may have noticed that the home page has not been updated for May. I decided to leave SCN. I feel SCN should be run, day-to-day, by a people person, someone who is focused on volunteers and the public. It has been too frustrating to continue. Of course, volunteer organizations can be frustrating. However, the level of frustration that is going on at SCN can be avoided with just a little attention and focus from the person who is doing the day-to-day activities. I'm sorry I had to leave, and I would love to continue to be the webmaster. I truly enjoyed working with the topic editors and our hardware and software people. Recently, we built-up a great staff of topic editors. We had an annual SCN potluck. The pages were being updated quite frequently. SCN is an incredible resource to the community. However, I have no choice but to leave. I hope the best for SCN and it's users and volunteers. I'd like to thank JJ, Randy and Steve of hardware and software. A special thanks to Ti, the president of SCN. Alan and Nathan of the help desk. And to the very special topic editors: Nancy Chen, Elaine Chan, Jim Loring, Lee Mullen, Lois, Chantha, and Jim Merryweather. I'd love to continue being webmaster, but some things would have to change. To clarify, this is not an ego thing. I just want what is best for SCN. I do not feel that SCN can grow and prosper under the current conditions. And too much time and effort are wasted when just a little time and effort could change that. I would consider coming back, but only if there were some fundamental changes to the organization. Changes that would take very little work, but are fundamental. I want to clarify that this is not an ego thing. I only volunteered for SCN to do my best and make it the best that it can be. I have a busy life as a single father and ego doesn't fit into the equation. Before I go: A special thanks to JJ for all of his hard work to keep SCN running. He's a good guy and deserves extra special recognition I apologize to any whom I have missed in thanking. There are many of you. Patrick __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn ==== Messages posted on this list are also available on the web at: ==== * * * * * * * http://www.scn.org/volunteers/scn-l/ * * * * * * * From eagleone at spamcop.net Sun May 5 08:45:15 2002 From: eagleone at spamcop.net (Eagle One) Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 08:45:15 -0700 Subject: SCN: home page Message-ID: <1020613515.3cd5538b6c411@mail.spamcop.net> At 01:54 AM 5/5/2002 -0700, patrick fisher wrote: >I do not feel that SCN can grow and prosper >under the current conditions. And too much time >and effort are wasted when just a little time >and effort could change that. This is obvious just from the emails that go back and forth! -- **** WARNING **** All unsolicited bulk e-mail (spam) received at this address will be promptly reported to the sender's system administrator, and to law enforcement authorities whenever applicable. (Done through SpamCop. See http://spamcop.net for details.) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn ==== Messages posted on this list are also available on the web at: ==== * * * * * * * http://www.scn.org/volunteers/scn-l/ * * * * * * * From douglas Sun May 5 22:12:08 2002 From: douglas (Doug Schuler) Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 22:12:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: SCN: Volunteer Opportunties Message-ID: <200205060512.WAA00757@scn.org> DIAC-02 is coming soon! It's not too late to volunteer -- eight hours of volunteer -- 4 days of free symposium. Next volunteer meeting is Monday May 6 at 3:30 pm at the Cafe Allegro 4214 University Way N.E., Thanks! -- Doug ****************************************************************** * SHAPING THE NETWORK SOCIETY * * Patterns for Participation, Action, and Change * * http://www.cpsr.org/conferences/diac02 * * Tomorrow's information and communication infrastructure * * is being shaped today. * * But by whom and to what ends? * * University of Washington, Seattle May 16-19, 2002 * * Questions: diac02-info at cpsr.org * ****************************************************************** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn ==== Messages posted on this list are also available on the web at: ==== * * * * * * * http://www.scn.org/volunteers/scn-l/ * * * * * * * From douglas Tue May 7 20:54:03 2002 From: douglas (Doug Schuler) Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 20:54:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: SCN: calendar & poster Message-ID: <200205080354.UAA05080@scn.org> Hello! The DIAC-02 schedule is FINALLY on the web. I think (and hope) that you'll like what you see! http://www.cpsr.org/conferences/diac02/schedule.html Also -- There is a poster (in MS Word) advertising the symposium. It would be great if you could put it up at your work and/or pass it around to people you know. http://www.cpsr.org/conferences/diac02/diac-02-poster.doc Thanks!!! Hope to see you there. -- Doug ****************************************************************** * SHAPING THE NETWORK SOCIETY * * Patterns for Participation, Action, and Change * * http://www.cpsr.org/conferences/diac02 * * Tomorrow's information and communication infrastructure * * is being shaped today. * * But by whom and to what ends? * * University of Washington, Seattle May 16-19, 2002 * * Questions: diac02-info at cpsr.org * ****************************************************************** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn ==== Messages posted on this list are also available on the web at: ==== * * * * * * * http://www.scn.org/volunteers/scn-l/ * * * * * * * From clariun at yahoo.com Wed May 8 08:18:59 2002 From: clariun at yahoo.com (patrick fisher) Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 08:18:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: SCN: "Telnet" access on Eastside - new volunteer Message-ID: <20020508151859.88577.qmail@web13201.mail.yahoo.com> SCN has a new volunteer and she is looking for "telnet" access on the Eastside from public terminals. Someone on this list had volunteered to help anyone out who needed the help of accessing SCN via the King County Libraries. Her name and email address are: "SelvaSankari Vijayaraj" She is very technically astute. She just doesn't have access from home. Thanks, Patrick __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn ==== Messages posted on this list are also available on the web at: ==== * * * * * * * http://www.scn.org/volunteers/scn-l/ * * * * * * * From daviesm at ecie.org Wed May 8 09:05:41 2002 From: daviesm at ecie.org (Martha Davies) Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 09:05:41 -0700 Subject: SCN: Re: [diac] calendar & poster References: <200205080354.UAA05080@scn.org> Message-ID: <002f01c1f6aa$6596a810$0200a8c0@MARTHA> Reporting from the Peruvian front: Doug: We are already doing the translation of Mino's presentation. It is 22 pages long which I will edit to maybe only 12? I have not been able to look for the audio-service to translate. Can somebody help direct me to places? Mino's ticket was approved by Ford F. Thank you, thank you! One of the big wheels in Peru is approved also,(privileged status!) -we are doing everything possible to bring Paola. Raul has the two names from the Indigenous Nations that will be on the panel. Mino is going to be in several radio interviews (in Spanish). This is all to report. Martha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Schuler" To: ; ; Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 8:54 PM Subject: [diac] calendar & poster > Hello! > > The DIAC-02 schedule is FINALLY on the web. I think > (and hope) that you'll like what you see! > http://www.cpsr.org/conferences/diac02/schedule.html > > Also -- > > There is a poster (in MS Word) advertising the symposium. > It would be great if you could put it up at your work and/or > pass it around to people you know. > http://www.cpsr.org/conferences/diac02/diac-02-poster.doc > > Thanks!!! Hope to see you there. > > -- Doug > > ****************************************************************** > * SHAPING THE NETWORK SOCIETY * > * Patterns for Participation, Action, and Change * > * http://www.cpsr.org/conferences/diac02 * > * Tomorrow's information and communication infrastructure * > * is being shaped today. * > * But by whom and to what ends? * > * University of Washington, Seattle May 16-19, 2002 * > * Questions: diac02-info at cpsr.org * > ****************************************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > Diac mailing list > Diac at serv9.lly.org > http://serv9.lly.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/diac > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn ==== Messages posted on this list are also available on the web at: ==== * * * * * * * http://www.scn.org/volunteers/scn-l/ * * * * * * * From douglas Wed May 8 13:42:19 2002 From: douglas (Doug Schuler) Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 13:42:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: SCN: SCN on slashdot Message-ID: <200205082042.NAA10959@scn.org> Community networks and open source -- an intriguing combination -- mostly unexplored. http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/05/06/0139258 Community Networks and Websites? The Internet | Posted by michael on 02:36 PM May 6th, 2002 from the potluck dept. brendano writes "I've been doing some research into the fascinating world of community networks and websites -- online places that can inform and connect people of a real-life community. They typically provide news, discussion forums, and email for local residents. There are some quite successful ones (such as the nonprofit Seattle Community Network or the Blacksburg Electronic Village), but also also ghost town-like failures that show how hard it is to get a community network/website rolling. In addition, many struggle with questions of how to get funding; whether they can be for-profit while serving the community, or be non-profit with enough money to keep going. Unlike the wireless community networks we hear about so much, these types of community networks go beyond just internet access and try to provide access to the community itself. Some, even, are being done to help build up disenfranchised communities, such as one in a housing project, or the three of HP's Digital Village project (one of whose projects I'm researching for.) I was wondering if members of the Slashdot community know of more examples of community networks, and what people think of these projects. Can real-life communities succeed in the online environment as well? 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To be removed from any future mailings please send an email with the subject "remove" to sari at masrawy.com 3855Ykvj5-188NuDZ3896gaQKl24 From douglas Sat May 11 23:33:59 2002 From: douglas (Doug Schuler) Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 23:33:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: SCN: Shaping the Network Society -- Our turn! Message-ID: <200205120633.XAA23685@scn.org> This week ... seattle ... be there ... seattle ... This week ... /// Please forward to appropriate people and lists. Thank you! ///// Shaping the Network Society: Patterns for Participation, Action, and Change http://www.cpsr.org/conferences/diac02 University of Washington HUB, Seattle, May 16-19, 2002 (full schedule: http://www.cpsr.org/conferences/diac02/schedule.html) This week!!!!! Last call! Tomorrow's information and communication infrastructure is being shaped today -- But by whom and to what ends? If you believe that our current communication systems aren't meeting community and civic needs you're not alone! Millions of people from around the world are asking these questions -- Will communication systems meet the needs of all people? Will they help people address current and future issues? Will they promote democracy, social justice, a healthy environment? Will appropriate research be conducted? Will equitable policies be enacted? Millions of people throughout the world are working to create systems which meet humankind's crucial needs. Join us at CPSR's eighth biannual "Directions and Implications of Advanced Computing" (DIAC) symposium to address these critical questions, build our community and develop plans for action. A partial list of confirmed speakers includes: Larry Irving, former undersecretary of Commerce in the Clinton Administration, : The Digital Divide, Facts and Fiction" Saskia Sassen, University of Chicago professor and author. "A New Politics of Places on Global Networks" Naaperori Shirampari Ashenika Mino, Ashanika Indigenous community, Peru Stevan Harnad, Professor of Cognitive Science, University of Southampton, "Open Research Access for an Open Society" Abdul Alkalimat, chair African American Studies, University of Toledo Nancy Kranich, immediate past president, American Library Association Mark Lloyd, Executive Director of the Civil Rights Forum on Communications Policy Stuart Cowan, Conservation Economy Research Director, Ecotrust Myoung-joon Kim, Labor & Media Activist, Seoul, Korea DeeDee Halleck, University of California at San Diego, media activist Phil Bereano, University of Washington, privacy and biotech activist Sheri Herndon, Independent Media Center, Seattle Raul Nakasone, The Evergreen State College, Olympia, WA Sergei Stafeev, Centre of Community Networking and Information Policy Studies, St. Petersburg, Russia Jeff Chester, Executive Director of the Center for Digital Democracy and many more!!!!!!! In addition to distinguished guests we plan to welcome researchers, practitioners, activists, journalists, educators, artists, policy-makers and citizens from around the world. A variety of events are planned ranging from invited speakers, panel discussions, and pattern presentations to a "Lakes, Locks, and Lively" reception cruise and informal working sessions -- both planned and spontaneous. We are also planning Open Space sessions devoted to the development of a new "pattern language" that describes our work (see the postscript below). Symposium topics will likely include the digital divide, human rights and privacy, open content research, pattern language development, media activism, community networks, wireless community networking, developing a civil society charter for the UN World Summit on the Information Society, independent media centers, virtual communities and online activism, cross-border collaborations, and MORE! And, as with previous DIAC symposia, we'll do our best to bring in some surprises as well... Join us this May in Seattle for this exciting and important event! Shaping the Network Society: Patterns for Participation, Action, and Change http://www.cpsr.org/conferences/diac02 Save money and register by April 20! Sponsored by: Public Sphere Project of Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility (CPSR) National Communication Association Task Force on the Digital Divide For more information, contact symposium coordinator Doug Schuler, douglas at scn.org PS. Our ongoing Pattern Language project to capture and publicize our collective wisdom is attracting worldwide attention. Whether or not you attend the symposium, please consider adding your pattern to our online pattern system (http://diac.cpsr.org/cgi-bin/diac02/pattern.cgi) which now includes over 160 patterns. The pattern language will only be as good as the patterns you submit! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn ==== Messages posted on this list are also available on the web at: ==== * * * * * * * http://www.scn.org/volunteers/scn-l/ * * * * * * * From douglas Tue May 14 17:59:20 2002 From: douglas (Doug Schuler) Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 17:59:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: SCN: Not attending DIAC-02 but want to get in some action? Message-ID: <200205150059.RAA11548@scn.org> = > Interested in democratic media?? This is the WEEK < ========= ------ Public EVENTS associated with DIAC-02 In addition to the regular program we are proud to announce several events that are open to the public. The opening night reception on Thursday, the event with Mino from Marankiari Bajo on Friday evening, and the IMC Open House also on Friday are all free. The party cruise on Saturday is $50 per adult and $35 for those 12 and under. (BTW, check out http://www.cpsr.org/conferences/diac02/schedule.html -- final schedule) ------------------------ Opening Reception -- Thursday Night May 16, 2002 7:00 PM - 10:00 PM Courtyard by Marriott--Seattle Downtown/Lake Union 925 Westlake Avenue North Seattle, Washington 98109 Come and mingle with conference attendees. Meet with old friends. Please stop by and say hello! ------------------------ Special Event - Friday Night Antiguas Civilizaciones de America Usando la Nueva Tecnologia para Formar un Mejor Futuro (Ancient American Civilizations using New Technology to Shape their Future) May 17, 2002 7:00 PM - 8:30 PM Puget Sound Room Courtyard by Marriott--Seattle Downtown/Lake Union 925 Westlake Avenue North Seattle, Washington 98109 An educational forum with Mino-Eusebio Castro (Naaperori Shirampari Ashenika Mino) of the Ashanika Indigenous community of Marankiari Bajo (territory of the snakes) Central Amazon Zone Peru. This event will be free and open to the public! (The forum will be conducted in Spanish with English translation). ------------------------ IMC Open House- Friday Night Also on Friday night, Seattle's Independent Media Center (IMC), located at 1415 3rd Ave., Seattle, WA 98101 (downtown between Pike and Union) cohosts open mic night - a chance for digging in with DeeDee Halleck and Jeff Chester as national guests talking about media consolidation and commercialization, plus additional local and international guests on alternatives and strategies. We invite everyone to participate in the conversation! ------------------------ Lakes, Locks, and Lively Reception Cruise -- Let's Party! Saturday late afternoon / evening Visitors watch as boats make the transition from the fresh water of Lake Washington and Lake Union to the salt water of Puget Sound through Hiram M. Chittenden Locks in Ballard, Seattle's Scandinavian neighborhood. Join us for the Shaping the Network Society "Lakes, Locks, and Lively Reception Cruise." Come cruise with your colleagues on a memorable passage from salt to fresh water through Seattle's famous Hiram Chittenden Locks and explore some of Seattle's most important waterfront landmarks. View Seattle's maritime heritage first hand. See the Alaska fishing fleet's home port at Fisherman's Terminal. Marvel at the unique "Sleepless in Seattle" floating houseboat community. Enjoy informative narration, lively conversation, warm hospitality, a delicious hors d'oeuvres buffet, and cash bar while experiencing fantastic city and mountain vistas from Elliott Bay, Puget Sound, and Lake Union. Our 3 hour Locks cruise, which will take place late afternoon Saturday, May 18, with boarding at approximately 4 p.m., departs from the Seattle Waterfront, rain or shine, and ends on Lake Union, a short shuttle ride from the heart of downtown. The cost of this cruise is $49.95 per person. Children aged 12 and under receive a $15 discount. Please note that you need not register for or attend DIAC-02 to join us for the cruise -- just print the registration form, fill out all parts except the "Conference Registration Rates" sections, and submit the registration form with your cruise payment, to us at the reception or at the conference hotel Wednesday evening from 6:00 - 8:00 pm. Join us for an extraordinary experience! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . 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The protection act was Congress's attempt to come up with a sustainable ban on indecent speech on the Internet, after the Supreme Court held that an earlier law violated the First Amendment. In response, Congress restricted the new act to speech for "commercial purposes," which is less protected than other speech. It also limited the ban to content that is "harmful to minors." But the American Civil Liberties Union, which challenged the law, pointed out that in the name of protecting children, the act criminalizes discussion boards on gynecology, sexual advice columns, the Philadelphia Gay News and other communication fully deserving of protection. The most troubling part of the Supreme Court's 8-to-1 decision was its holding concerning "community standards." The act requires courts to look to the standards of the community in which the speech occurs. The decision reversed an appeals court ruling that the First Amendment does not permit "community standards" to determine when online speech will and will not be allowed. The appeals court was right on this point, and the Supreme Court should have let that holding stand. Under the protection act, a Web site operated in Greenwich Village can be forced to limit its speech to the standards of, say, Trent Lott's hometown of Pascagoula, Miss. The result, as Justice John Paul Stevens noted in dissent, is that "a law that criminalizes a particular communication in just a handful of destinations effectively prohibits transmission of that message to all of the 176.5 million Americans who have access to the Internet." On the positive side, the Supreme Court did not hold that the act itself is constitutional. 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URL: From emailer1 at netzero.net Mon May 20 17:23:17 2002 From: emailer1 at netzero.net (emailer1) Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 17:23:17 -0700 Subject: SCN: Re: The Public Life of a Private Struggle References: <20020422160018.66250.qmail@web13204.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005901c20061$51c221a0$7152fea9@desktop> An excellent letter. Thanks for sharing it with us. ----- Original Message ----- From: patrick fisher To: Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 9:00 AM Subject: SCN: The Public Life of a Private Struggle > There was an excellent article in the Op-Ed pages of the New York Times last week. I > found it online > at NYTimes.com and here it is, along with a letter to the editor about the article. > The article written by > Mariane Pearl, the widow of Daniel Pearl, the journalist who was kidnapped and > killed in Pakistan a > month or two ago. The article gives a lot of insight into a world we only see from > what the media dishes > out to us. It's just a wonderful article. > > > The Public Life of Private Struggles > > April 19, 2002 > > By MARIANE PEARL > > PARIS > > > I first learned about Pakistan's silent majority at a time > when most of the world found itself stunned and speechless > at the killing of thousands on Sept. 11. > > My husband, Danny, and I had arrived in Pakistan just after > the attacks. Pakistan was part of his beat as South Asia > bureau chief for The Wall Street Journal. We had no > apprehensions about being in a Muslim country. We had both > traveled throughout the Muslim world. Danny had just spent > five years covering the Middle East. As a girl, I had spent > my holidays with a friend in Algeria, and Islam, the > second-largest religion in France, was very much a part of > my childhood at home in Paris. > > Danny and I both wished we had been visiting Pakistan in a > quieter time. But there we were. At our first meeting we > heard from a group of women who advised the city of > Karachi. They expressed anger at Western reporters for > blaming the attacks on Muslim fundamentalists and Osama bin > Laden without proof. They asked us to think carefully about > our responsibilities as Westerners and as journalists. They > said they were lovers of peace and were deeply offended by > what they perceived as the West's attack on Islam. > > Next we traveled to Islamabad. At the Marriott hotel, you > could find every news outlet, from CNN to Serbian radio. > The journalists were there to cover a war they could not, > as yet, actually see. They speculated on the possibility of > a coup. Members of fundamentalist Muslim groups > demonstrated before the Marriott to display their anger. > You could take a close shot of the protesters as they > shouted against America and tell the public back home that > Pakistan was on the verge of a civil war. Or you could hunt > for another opinion, that of the moderates who were said to > be the democratic majority. > > Danny and I were told that most people did not share the > opinions of fundamentalists. But this reassuring voice of > the moderate majority was nowhere to be seen or heard. > > Danny and I kept talking with all sorts of people in > Pakistan. These conversations were honest and sincere; our > interlocutors talked about what they really felt. Some > blamed their country's troubles on corruption and previous > regimes. Others blamed India or the West, and sometimes > both. All expressed shame and anger at how terrorists and > their supporters had stolen Islam for their own purposes by > promoting hatred and violence. I, too, felt this sorrow for > Islam, though as a non-Muslim, and so did Danny. > > During the months that Danny and I spent in Pakistan, from > Peshawar to Islamabad and then Karachi, I became convinced > that all of us have to take responsibility for what is > happening in the world if we want to eradicate the causes > of terrorism, fascism and similar ideologies. Something new > has to happen, and everyday people have to be part of the > process. > > Both Danny and I knew better than to believe what the > fundamentalists were telling us about jihad. Jihad is the > name of a process that can be undertaken successfully only > by a courageous person. A jihadi fights with himself or > herself in what I, as a Buddhist, think of as a personal > revolution. It doesn't involve demonstrating in front of TV > cameras or murdering innocent people. It is a slow and > difficult process in which one seeks to overcome fears, > prejudices and limitations to defend justice and do > something that we call épanouir in French - allowing our > personalities to expand and blossom so that we can fully > contribute to society at large. > > I came to believe that only through such struggle - a true > jihad - could Pakistan address the core issues that the > fundamentalists use to manipulate people and exploit > ignorance. Education, freedom of expression and the > alleviation of poverty could no longer be considered a > government responsibility alone. Citizens had to find ways > to claim and defend their own rights. It was for the people > of Pakistan to decide where their country stands in the > global arena, and it was for the people of Pakistan to > shake off submissiveness and restore their country's > dignity. > > Then Danny was kidnapped. > > Neighbors shut their windows and front doors to me during > this crisis. I cannot really say of what they were afraid. > Was it the police? Gossip? Was it some earlier trauma? Was > it Pakistan's intelligence agencies? The terrorists? > Themselves? > > I prayed that the majority would not remain silent or > paralyzed by fears. I prayed that people would come out and > defend their faith and country - and defend their own > dignity by voicing their rejection of criminals determined > to destroy the future of Pakistan and the hope of its > citizens to live in peace. > > My prayers were realized in part. During this ordeal, I was > surrounded by individual Pakistanis and Muslims as > courageous and beautiful as those terrorists appeared ugly > and without souls. I can never be grateful enough for their > graciousness, a ray of hope in the midst of darkness. > > In the five weeks when I waited in Karachi for Danny to > come back to me and our unborn son, the Pakistani police > reported at least 11 killings of Shiite Muslims in Karachi > alone. Those slain were mostly doctors and professionals. > Sectarian terrorists were pursuing their work of > destruction. They were planting even deeper the seeds of > fear in the hearts of people, making the silence of the > majority even more painful to hear. Such fear and terror > can destroy a society. > > When I finally had to acknowledge Danny's bloody murder, I > decided not to leave Pakistan right away. I wanted to show > defiance against fear. In those days, absorbing the murder > of my husband, I received the most heartfelt letters of > support from all over the world. And finally I heard from > the majority in Pakistan as it abandoned silence. > > > Pakistani people wrote to me about their feelings. "May God > give you strength. Danny's murderers are not Muslim and > should be brought to justice." They shared their shame with > me: "I am really saddened by the news and astonished that a > Pakistani brother can do this." There were beautiful > letters printed in Karachi's English-language weekly, The > Friday Times. "Danny Pearl is not just a dead American > journalist," a writer stated. "His suffering in our midst > has made him a martyr to the Pakistani people. He died > because Pakistan's enemies could not bear to see the > country retake the course of tolerance and moderation that > its founding father envisaged." > > Then I heard about a Web site in which Pakistanis bravely > signed their names to a letter of condolence. They wrote: > "We unequivocally condemn the perpetrators of this > enormity: they are a plague to Pakistan, and the majority > of her citizens would prefer to see their kind destroyed." > At last count, the signatories numbered 3,767. > > Pakistani letter writers had left aside prejudices and > appreciated my husband as an individual. One writer > commented, "Your husband had a great smile - a happy > mixture of Pope Paul and Dean Martin." > > Most captured the sentiments of a writer who called Danny's > murder "a crime against the people of Pakistan." These > voices give me the strength to believe that the hope of a > modern, strong Pakistan still lives and that the people of > Pakistan will help me see that justice is done. I'm told > there is a hadith, a saying of the Prophet Muhammad, that > tells Muslims that if they see an evil they should act to > remove the evil. If they cannot do that, they should speak > against the evil. If not that, then they must condemn the > evil in their hearts. > > The strongest expression, however, is to act against evil. > > > In memory of Danny and for the future of our son, who is > almost here, I also want to ask the people of Pakistan to > act upon the sentiments they have expressed and build a > memorial for Danny in Karachi. I will bring our son to this > memorial and tell him this is the land where his father > died, but that the people here stood by us so that his > death would not be in vain. > > > Mariane Pearl, a freelance journalist, is writing a book > about her husband, Daniel Pearl. > > ---- > Here is the response to her article: > > To the Editor: > > Mariane Pearl ("Why Good Hearts Must Go Public," Op-Ed, > April 19) writes with an admirable sense of compassion and > understanding for the Pakistani people, despite the tragedy > that she has faced. > > She rightly asserts that there is a silent majority in > Pakistan that needs to speak up to steer the country on the > right path. Many other people in her situation would hate > all Pakistanis or Muslims. She, in essence, is extending an > arm out to the silent majority in Pakistan, which abhors > the actions of extremists. She has done much for the > Pakistani people by creating a precedent of choosing to > hear all the voices and not simply the few extremists. > > As a Pakistani-American, I read her words with awe, and I > hope to see her wishes for a Daniel Pearl memorial in > Karachi granted. > AMINA RAFIQ > Greenvale, N.Y., April 19, 2002 > > > > > > > ===== > Webmaster > Seattle Community Network > http://www.scn.org > "Powering our communities with technology" > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more > http://games.yahoo.com/ > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * > . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: > majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: > unsubscribe scn > ==== Messages posted on this list are also available on the web at: ==== > * * * * * * * http://www.scn.org/volunteers/scn-l/ * * * * * * * > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn ==== Messages posted on this list are also available on the web at: ==== * * * * * * * http://www.scn.org/volunteers/scn-l/ * * * * * * * From emailer1 at netzero.net Mon May 20 17:36:41 2002 From: emailer1 at netzero.net (emailer1) Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 17:36:41 -0700 Subject: SCN: Re: telnet access on Eastside References: <20020424152936.59659.qmail@web13206.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005b01c20061$61cdcc20$7152fea9@desktop> What about SCNA providing a computer to this person? There was an abundance of not-too-old computers available through the CAMP program. Basic software was also provided. Netzero still offers 10 hours per month free. Can that be pursued? ----- Original Message ----- From: patrick fisher To: Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 8:29 AM Subject: SCN: telnet access on Eastside > SCN has a new volunteer who does not have a computer and lives on the Eastside. > > Are there public telnet access terminals in that part of the world? Community > centers? I called the King County Library System and they said that they disabled > telnet because of security concerns. > > Thanks, > Patrick > > ===== > Webmaster > Seattle Community Network > http://www.scn.org > "Powering our communities with technology" > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more > http://games.yahoo.com/ > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * > . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: > majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: > unsubscribe scn > ==== Messages posted on this list are also available on the web at: ==== > * * * * * * * http://www.scn.org/volunteers/scn-l/ * * * * * * * > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn ==== Messages posted on this list are also available on the web at: ==== * * * * * * * http://www.scn.org/volunteers/scn-l/ * * * * * * * From emailer1 at netzero.net Mon May 20 17:42:05 2002 From: emailer1 at netzero.net (emailer1) Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 17:42:05 -0700 Subject: SCN: Re: Purposes--and spam. References: Message-ID: <006001c20061$80ef7680$7152fea9@desktop> This excellent idea should be pursued. What about starting a separate committee to focus on this. ----- Original Message ----- From: J. Johnson To: Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 1:14 AM Subject: SCN: Purposes--and spam. > I have wondered if a useful and highly laudable purpose SCN might follow > would be the fighting of spam. I don't mean by the usual technical means. > I mean by legal and political means. > > Consider that Washington state does have a law that assesses a penalty of > $500 for e-mail messages with false header lines. There have even been > two or three cases reported in the papers where individuals have > collected. > > Now consider how many messages we have coming through here that have false > headers--lots! (Thousands.) (Did I mention a possible revenue stream?) > > For sure there is some work involved. Like researching the law, learning > how to layout a case before a judge (small claims courts, very informal), > filing a case, and perhaps even writing letters to the spammers that we > are about to file a hundred or so individual claims and would they like to > negotiate a bulk discount? > > Nor would this work in all cases--there still are those spammers from out > of country. But there are enough native spammers to keep provide a good > business. > > (There's also the research getting the spammer's name and address, but > that is not insolvable. Just ask them where to send the check.) > > There's also possible political action, like lobbying our legislators. > Well, maybe our Articles forbid lobbying, but we could sure _educate_ > them. Or educate our users how to file suits. > > SCN would be a good base--perhaps the ideal base--for doing this because: > first, we have access a large flow of spam, and the technical expertise to > analyze it; second, because the organization can provide the support > for doing this that individuals don't have; and third, because this is not > something most business are inclinded to undertake. (Or even governmental > agencies.) > > And it isn't hard to start. A start could be just doing some research > about spam and putting up a web site. > > So should SCN undertake active legal, political, or other measures to > fight spam? > > === JJ ============================================================= > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * > . 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To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn ==== Messages posted on this list are also available on the web at: ==== * * * * * * * http://www.scn.org/volunteers/scn-l/ * * * * * * * From emailer1 at netzero.net Mon May 20 17:40:18 2002 From: emailer1 at netzero.net (emailer1) Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 17:40:18 -0700 Subject: SCN: Fw: 911 Peace Coalition Action Alert Message-ID: <005f01c20061$7f4d5f40$7152fea9@desktop> ----- Original Message ----- From: Fred Miller To: mailto:Undisclosed-Recipient:@scn.org Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:32 PM Subject: 911 Peace Coalition Action Alert Dear Friend, Please contact Senator Patty Murray, who is a member of the Energy and Water Subcommittee of the Senate Appropriations Committee. In the strongest terms possible, please ask her to oppose the idea of "usable" nuclear weapons and to cut funding from the Energy Department budget for the new nuclear warhead called the "Robust Nuclear Earth Penetrator." We are asking you to fax this message because mail delivery to the Congress is still very unreliable, and we have been told by Congressional staff that e-mails are not always read. Patty Murray's fax number is 202-224-0238. Her regular phone is 202 224-2621. As you may know, recent news accounts report that the Bush Administration plans to target non- nuclear states with nuclear weapons. This new nuclear policy is contained or implicit in the classified "Nuclear Posture Review" delivered to Congress on January 8, 2002. It is very important that our political policy makers understand that most people in the United States do not find such a policy acceptable. Please check the Legislative Action Message which was sent out by FCNL for background information and to send a fax: . We are contacting several thousand people around the country who have representatives or senators on this or another crucial decision-making committee in Congress. Your action will join with many others to make a difference in the outcome. We hope you will take part in this crucial campaign to stop the development of new nuclear weapons. Senator Murray is key to this decision. Please contact her as soon as possible, as we anticipate a vote very soon. Many thanks for your ongoing support. Sincerely, Kathy Guthrie Field Program Secretary, Friends Committee on National Legislation Fred Miller Peace & Justice Alliance -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emailer1 at netzero.net Mon May 20 19:34:53 2002 From: emailer1 at netzero.net (emailer1) Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 19:34:53 -0700 Subject: SCN: Fw: Urban Politics #132 - CABLE LEGISLATION Message-ID: <001501c20073$f51617a0$7152fea9@desktop> Useful reading. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 4:34 PM Subject: Urban Politics #132 - CABLE LEGISLATION > CABLE LEGISLATION > > Urban Politics #132 with Nick Licata, 5/5/02 > With assistance from my Legislative Assistant Newell Aldrich > > Urban Politics (UP) blends my insights and information on current public > policy developments and personal experiences with the intent of helping > citizens shape Seattle's future. > > Instructions on subscribing or unsubscribing to the Urban Politics mailing > list are at the bottom of the UP. > > SEATTLE CABLE CUSTOMER BILL OF RIGHTS > FEDERAL RULING ON CABLE MODEMS > *** > COUNCILMEMBER & MAYOR E MAILS > SUBSCRIPTION INSTRUCTIONS > > > SEATTLE CABLE CUSTOMER BILL OF RIGHTS > > Last month at the Full Council's Monday, April 22, 2002 meeting I voted to > approve Ordinance 114137 (sponsored by Councilmember Jim Compton), > legislation that strengthens our city's Cable Customer Bill of Rights by > revising sections of Seattle Municipal Code 21.60. The ordinance passed 8-0, > with Councilmember Pageler excused. This legislation is significant because > it specifically defines, for the first time anywhere in the nation, how a > municipality can implement existing Federal laws regulating cable services. > I see four important aspects to this legislation. > > First, it requires that cable companies notify cable customers at least 30 > days before each separate instance the companies intend to share personal > customer information with third parties. Federal Law simply states that > cable providers must "give notice" to customers when sharing their > information with third parties. > > Second, this ordinance requires that a specific form, a post card, include > specific and plain language that discloses how cable companies share personal > information and to inform cable customers that they may "opt out" of such > sharing. Federal Law simply states that cable providers must allow > subscribers to "opt out" to prevent providers from sharing their personal > information with third parties. Often, I have heard complaints that cable > company notices lack clarity, are confusing, and do not provide clear > direction on how to remove oneself from personal information sharing. > > Third, if a cable company shares a customer's personal information after the > customer failed to opt out of such information sharing, the cable company > must notify the customer within 45 days of having shared their personal > information that the customer has another opportunity to opt out of future > information sharing. When a customer opts out, it is permanent. No further > opt out notices need to be sent by the cable company or acknowledged by the > customer. The cable company may, however, ask the customer to consider > opting back in at a latter date. > > And last, this legislation looks to the future by defining interactive > television as one of the "other services" covered within the ordinance. The > City anticipates that cable set-top box software and other interactive > technology will one day be able to collect personal information on customers. > So, the City extended to that technology consumer safeguards on personal > information sharing, as well. > > As a result of the Council having successfully passed this legislation, > several cities are now looking to Seattle as a model they can use when > shaping their own legislation on cable customer rights. I commend > Councilmember Jim Compton and his staff for their leadership on this > groundbreaking legislation. > > > FEDERAL RULING ON CABLE MODEMS > > In a Declaratory Ruling announced on March 14, 2002, the FCC concluded that > cable modem service is properly classified as an "interstate information > service" rather than a "cable service" as defined by the Communications Act > and is therefore not subject to local regulation. The FCC also said that > cable modem service does not contain a separate "telecommunications service" > offering and therefore is not subject to common carrier regulation. In other > words, cable companies cannot be forced by local government to share their > lines with other internet access providers. > > If you are a cable modem subscriber, you might have already felt the impact > of this ruling: your monthly bill has shrunk by a couple bucks. That's > because, as of April 1st, cable providers have removed municipal franchise > fee taxes from their customers' cable modem bills. Presently, the city > levies a 10% utility tax on cable services. Cable companies have not yet > asked the City to remove cable modem revenue from that tax base. The city > puts into reserve 4% of that tax in anticipation of cable companies > eventually requesting to be taxed at the lower telecommunications services > rate of 6%. But, although cable modems are considered a utility, there is > not yet a taxing category for "interstate information services," which the > FCC has declared cable modems to be. > > While taxpayers obviously benefit from these lower cable bills, the City is > losing revenue. Although specific figures are not yet available, the budget > office anticipates that the hit on Seattle's coffers could amount to about > three hundred thousand dollars for the rest of this year. > > In response to the FCC's March 14th cable modem ruling, two interest groups > have acted. The Washington State Association of Telecommunications Officers > is in the process of submitting comments to the FCC challenging their > determination that cable modem service is not a cable service. And the > National League of Cities, U. S. Conference of Mayors, National Association > of Counties, and National Association of Telecommunications Officers > announced jointly on April 24th that they have formed the Alliance of Local > Organizations Against Preemption. ALOAP was formed in direct response to the > FCC ruling and has appealed it to the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. > That's the same court that unanimously decided in 2000 that the regulation of > cable modems is properly the jurisdiction of federal, not local government. > > Look for updates on this fast-changing issue in future Urban Politics. > > > COUNCIL MEMBER & MAYOR E-MAILS > > Heidi.Wills at ci.seattle.wa.us > Richard.McIver at ci.seattle.wa.us > Jan.Drago at ci.seattle.wa.us > Judy.Nicastro at ci.seattle.wa.us > Margaret.Pageler at ci.seattle.wa.us > Jim.Compton at ci.seattle.wa.us > Peter.Steinbrueck at ci.seattle.wa.us > Richard.Conlin at ci.seattle.wa.us > Nick.Licata at ci.seattle.wa.us > > Mayors.office at ci.seattle.wa.us > > SUBSCRIPTION INSTRUCTIONS ---- > > --Send all messages to Majordomo at lists.speakeasy.org > --Type these requests in the body of the message. > --To Unsubscribe: type unsubscribe urbanpolitics > --To Subscribe: type subscribe urbanpolitics > --To Change email addresses use the two lines above in the same > message but on separate lines. > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn ==== Messages posted on this list are also available on the web at: ==== * * * * * * * http://www.scn.org/volunteers/scn-l/ * * * * * * * From jj at scn.org Tue May 21 01:33:40 2002 From: jj at scn.org (J. Johnson) Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 01:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: SCN: Rich again. In-Reply-To: <006001c20061$80ef7680$7152fea9@desktop> Message-ID: Go away, Rich. Your comprehension of e-mail is slender, your litigatous approach to resolving conflict stinks, and no less an authority than the Washington State Court of Appeals doesn't seem to think much of your legal skills. And as you welshed on your public promise to explain what your stupid suit was all about you have you have no credibility to be saying anything else. === JJ ============================================================= * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn ==== Messages posted on this list are also available on the web at: ==== * * * * * * * http://www.scn.org/volunteers/scn-l/ * * * * * * * From steve at advocate.net Wed May 22 17:05:50 2002 From: steve at advocate.net (Steve) Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 17:05:50 -0700 Subject: SCN: Net royalties Message-ID: <3CEBCFEE.11598.52A19E1@localhost> x-no-archive: yes ===================== (David Berlind, ZDNet)---Just prior to launching my investigative report on whether Microsoft and IBM were plotting to take over the Internet, I received a phone call from my colleague and fellow columnist David Coursey, asking me if I had forgotten to take my daily medication. He had good reason to wonder whether I had lost my mind. I'll be the first one to admit that the idea that two companies--even ones as big as Microsoft and IBM--could conspire to take over the Internet on the basis of software patents and royalties is, well, "out there." Casting further doubt upon my theory was Coursey's subsequent interview with Microsoft platform strategy group general manager Charles Fitzgerald, who said: "While this may be disappointing to some conspiracy theorists, Microsoft has absolutely no ambition, plan, or desire to collect a royalty on Internet traffic." Fitzgerald went on to say, "Burdening the underlying standards with additional costs would both undermine this strategy and fly in the face of our business strategy of delivering high-volume, low-cost software." We should thank Coursey for getting this official statement from Microsoft. When coupled and compared with the testimony of one of the same company's highest-ranking officers, it is clear to me that one of two things happened. Either the company attempted to deceive Coursey, his readers, ZDNet, and the public; or Fitzgerald, a Microsoft general manager, didn't know what the company's official position was. You decide. The conspiracy theorist Fitzgerald refers to is me, and the rest of what Fitzgerald said lies in stark contrast with the testimony of Microsoft VP Jim Allchin during the ongoing antitrust proceedings. Kevin Hodges, an attorney representing the litigating states, probed for the truth about Microsoft's intent with respect to its intellectual property rights over technologies that were submitted to the World Wide Web consortium (W3C) for consideration as standards. The line of questioning speaks for itself: Hodges: And if you look at the bottom of the page, is it correct that once again Microsoft has reserved the right to charge a royalty for its technology used in this submission? Allchin: Yes. If you have intellectual property and you follow the laws that the--the laws, the patent submission guidelines for W3C, if you have intellectual property, it's pretty reasonable that you get paid for it. We haven't decided that we're going to charge royalties. Hodges: But you've reserved the right, correct? Allchin: Yes. Hodges: And I take it you haven't decided you're not going to charge royalties? Allchin: Um, I'm not going to make that statement here today. We're thinking about it. "We're thinking about it." That's a bit different from what Fitzgerald told Coursey, that "Microsoft has absolutely no ambition, plan, or desire to collect a royalty on Internet traffic." So far, Fitzgerald has refused to comment on the issue. Over a period of one week, several attempts were made to schedule a telephone interview to give Fitzgerald an opportunity to explain the discrepancies between what he said to David Coursey and what Jim Allchin said to the court. Through Microsoft's public relations firm Waggener-Edstrom, Fitzgerald declined a telephone interview, offering only to answer my questions via e-mail by end-of-day May 20, 2002, which I reluctantly accepted. However, Fitzgerald and Waggener-Edstrom's self-imposed deadline have come and gone, without any correspondence via telephone or e-mail from either. Just in case this debate degenerates into an argument over semantics, Microsoft may indeed have no ambition to charge royalties on Internet traffic itself. But any royalty charged to anyone (for example, another software vendor) for complying with an Internet standard ultimately shows up in the cost of creating traffic that's based on that standard. Either that, or the royalty is so expensive that no one pays it, and the only way to comply with the standard is to buy the technology from Microsoft. Now you understand why the question is relevant to an antitrust hearing. More important is the issue of trust. Microsoft apparently responds differently when it's under oath than when it's not--for example, when journalists have the same questions that lawyers do. If you're not convinced, the previous example isn't the only one. In a story that explored Microsoft's and IBM's motives for not inviting Sun Microsystems to be one of the founding members of the Web Service Interoperability Organization (WS-I), officials from both companies concocted logic for the decision that was almost too easy to debunk. But just in case anybody thought I forgot to take my medication on that day as well, the very same court transcript revealed that the decision to exclude Sun from the WS-I came right from the very top. In responding to the idea of the WS-I, which was code-named "Foo" at the time, Microsoft CEO Bill Gates wrote in an e-mail: "I can live with this if we have the positioning clearly in our favor," and "in particular, Sun not being one of the movers/announcers/founding member." In an interesting bout of clairvoyance that took place the week before the revelation of Gates's e-mail, IBM mysteriously backpedaled on its resistance to allowing Sun into the WS-I as a board member. Now that the truth is out of the bag, it's easy to understand IBM's interest in distancing itself from a situation that's not only embarrassing, but that could easily lead to an antitrust inquiry of its own. Formed by IBM and Microsoft, the WS-I is an organization that will produce Web specifications; these specifications, if left unchecked (and much to the chagrin of the W3C), stand a good chance of becoming the de facto standard protocols that will make up the next-generation infrastructure of the Internet. If IBM and Microsoft own the intellectual property to those specifications, they could end up with a duopoly over the Internet. Why Microsoft continues to dig itself into a grave of mistrust is anyone's guess. Surely, the company must understand that no one is going to want to do business with a company that has one story when it's under oath, and another when it's not. Perhaps Gates should delete the word "computing" from his "trustworthy computing" initiative and just work on the first part for now. Copyright 2002 CNET Networks Inc. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . 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To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn ==== Messages posted on this list are also available on the web at: ==== * * * * * * * http://www.scn.org/volunteers/scn-l/ * * * * * * * From jj at scn.org Fri May 24 01:58:56 2002 From: jj at scn.org (J. Johnson) Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 01:58:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: SCN: E-mail viruses & worms. Message-ID: This message is for those of you that download e-mail (whether from SCN or else where) and read it with the usual Microsoft software. If you login to SCN to read your e-mail (without downloading it) you need not worry, even if you do receive infected e-mail. We see a relatively small but steady stream of messages containing e-mail worms trying to infect other PCs. (Worms differ from viruses in that they will run on their own.) The latest worms go through your files looking for e-mail addresses of your friends and associates to send infected messages to. This can be pretty embarassing! These worms can do this automatically because of some egregiously bad "features" in MS software, such as the the _default_ behavior of automatically opening e-mail attachments and running them. It is strongly recommended by all authorities that these be turned off, and other protective measures taken. If you need assistance in protecting your machine there are various sites that can assist you, such as CERT (www.cert.org), which also has links to the principal anti-virus software sites. Please check them out. === JJ ============================================================= * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . 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To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn ==== Messages posted on this list are also available on the web at: ==== * * * * * * * http://www.scn.org/volunteers/scn-l/ * * * * * * * From emailer1 at netzero.net Mon May 27 04:08:10 2002 From: emailer1 at netzero.net (emailer1) Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 04:08:10 -0700 Subject: SCN: Fw: Urban Politics #132 - CABLE LEGISLATION Message-ID: <006901c2057a$fc0aa420$7152fea9@desktop> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 4:34 PM Subject: Urban Politics #132 - CABLE LEGISLATION > > > > CABLE LEGISLATION > > Urban Politics #132 with Nick Licata, 5/5/02 > With assistance from my Legislative Assistant Newell Aldrich > > Urban Politics (UP) blends my insights and information on current public > policy developments and personal experiences with the intent of helping > citizens shape Seattle's future. > > Instructions on subscribing or unsubscribing to the Urban Politics mailing > list are at the bottom of the UP. > > SEATTLE CABLE CUSTOMER BILL OF RIGHTS > FEDERAL RULING ON CABLE MODEMS > *** > COUNCILMEMBER & MAYOR E MAILS > SUBSCRIPTION INSTRUCTIONS > > > SEATTLE CABLE CUSTOMER BILL OF RIGHTS > > Last month at the Full Council's Monday, April 22, 2002 meeting I voted to > approve Ordinance 114137 (sponsored by Councilmember Jim Compton), > legislation that strengthens our city's Cable Customer Bill of Rights by > revising sections of Seattle Municipal Code 21.60. The ordinance passed 8-0, > with Councilmember Pageler excused. This legislation is significant because > it specifically defines, for the first time anywhere in the nation, how a > municipality can implement existing Federal laws regulating cable services. > I see four important aspects to this legislation. > > First, it requires that cable companies notify cable customers at least 30 > days before each separate instance the companies intend to share personal > customer information with third parties. Federal Law simply states that > cable providers must "give notice" to customers when sharing their > information with third parties. > > Second, this ordinance requires that a specific form, a post card, include > specific and plain language that discloses how cable companies share personal > information and to inform cable customers that they may "opt out" of such > sharing. Federal Law simply states that cable providers must allow > subscribers to "opt out" to prevent providers from sharing their personal > information with third parties. Often, I have heard complaints that cable > company notices lack clarity, are confusing, and do not provide clear > direction on how to remove oneself from personal information sharing. > > Third, if a cable company shares a customer's personal information after the > customer failed to opt out of such information sharing, the cable company > must notify the customer within 45 days of having shared their personal > information that the customer has another opportunity to opt out of future > information sharing. When a customer opts out, it is permanent. No further > opt out notices need to be sent by the cable company or acknowledged by the > customer. The cable company may, however, ask the customer to consider > opting back in at a latter date. > > And last, this legislation looks to the future by defining interactive > television as one of the "other services" covered within the ordinance. The > City anticipates that cable set-top box software and other interactive > technology will one day be able to collect personal information on customers. > So, the City extended to that technology consumer safeguards on personal > information sharing, as well. > > As a result of the Council having successfully passed this legislation, > several cities are now looking to Seattle as a model they can use when > shaping their own legislation on cable customer rights. I commend > Councilmember Jim Compton and his staff for their leadership on this > groundbreaking legislation. > > > FEDERAL RULING ON CABLE MODEMS > > In a Declaratory Ruling announced on March 14, 2002, the FCC concluded that > cable modem service is properly classified as an "interstate information > service" rather than a "cable service" as defined by the Communications Act > and is therefore not subject to local regulation. The FCC also said that > cable modem service does not contain a separate "telecommunications service" > offering and therefore is not subject to common carrier regulation. In other > words, cable companies cannot be forced by local government to share their > lines with other internet access providers. > > If you are a cable modem subscriber, you might have already felt the impact > of this ruling: your monthly bill has shrunk by a couple bucks. That's > because, as of April 1st, cable providers have removed municipal franchise > fee taxes from their customers' cable modem bills. Presently, the city > levies a 10% utility tax on cable services. Cable companies have not yet > asked the City to remove cable modem revenue from that tax base. The city > puts into reserve 4% of that tax in anticipation of cable companies > eventually requesting to be taxed at the lower telecommunications services > rate of 6%. But, although cable modems are considered a utility, there is > not yet a taxing category for "interstate information services," which the > FCC has declared cable modems to be. > > While taxpayers obviously benefit from these lower cable bills, the City is > losing revenue. Although specific figures are not yet available, the budget > office anticipates that the hit on Seattle's coffers could amount to about > three hundred thousand dollars for the rest of this year. > > In response to the FCC's March 14th cable modem ruling, two interest groups > have acted. The Washington State Association of Telecommunications Officers > is in the process of submitting comments to the FCC challenging their > determination that cable modem service is not a cable service. And the > National League of Cities, U. S. Conference of Mayors, National Association > of Counties, and National Association of Telecommunications Officers > announced jointly on April 24th that they have formed the Alliance of Local > Organizations Against Preemption. 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We respect all removal requests. http://www.aldenhosting.com/emailremove.shtml?email=scn at scn.org This message was sent to scn at scn.org. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn ==== Messages posted on this list are also available on the web at: ==== * * * * * * * http://www.scn.org/volunteers/scn-l/ * * * * * * * From scoth at scn.org Tue May 28 00:39:08 2002 From: scoth at scn.org (Scot Harkins on scn.org) Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 00:39:08 -0700 Subject: SCN: Re: E-mail viruses & worms. References: Message-ID: <009f01c2061a$c59b4980$028cc5ce@mshome.net> For users of MS Outlook Express, the vulnerability used by worms like the Klez family was closed last year by MS. The fix was available in an update downloaded from MS' Windows Update site. The problem is, many, if not most, home users do not check for updates. The current spate of Klez infections would dwindle and die if folks would just run the updates. They're free, and easy to download and install. If you are running anything from Windows95 and up, visit windowsupdate.microsoft.com, click on either of the "Product Updates" links. If it has been a while since your last visit you will be asked to install the latest mini-program that assesses what updates you need; acknowledge the request and let it install. The assessor will check your current software against a list of current updates and determine what updates you need, what updates would be nice, and other updates of interest. You are looking for the "Critical Updates and Service Packs" section, which comes first. It will bundle all the critical updates together, and perhaps include service packs, if any. Critical updates are already selected for download, so all you have to do is click the "Download" button. Follow the download screen from there, close all other programs, answer yes to install the updates, let the download and install proceed, and be prepared to reboot when the install is complete. >From Windows98 and up to WindowsME, and in Windows 2000, there is already a "Windows Update" selection in the Start menu. Run the updates from time to time to install patches as MS releases them. If you install any of the other programs listed (which can also be okay), come right back again to see any critical updates for that software. Some folks will say "I installed an update that once crashed my computer!" Every now and then something on someone's computer goes awry and the install conflicts or crashes altogether. In hundreds of updates on lots of computers over a few years I've only had this happen a few (3-5) times. It's a risk, but small. Compared to the damage done by these worms and other holes left open by _not_ running the updates, the risk is worth it. In addition to updates, you really do need anti-virus software, whether on Windows or Mac. It's just a good practice, and the price (usually about $30 for home versions) easily beats the cost of your time and hassle recovering from the nastier viruses and worms. Just as important as having the software is keeping it up to date. The most frequent updates download new files telling the software about new viruses and worms to watch out for on your system. Less frequently but just as important are updates to the program itself, fixing bugs or holes that some new viruses try to use to disable the anti-virus software. Anti-virus programs also defend your computer from being used by viruses and worms to launch attacks on other computers or to spread more viruses and worms. When you get infected, it's not just your computer that's hit. Most viruses and worms send copies of themselves out to your email contacts (and email addresses they find elsewhere, like in documents), so you are exposing your friends to the same viruses. The worst part is that the latest viruses and worms send copies of themselves out but lie about who sent the virus, so your friends may receive a copy but it may look like it came from someone else, so they will not know to tell you that your computer is infected. These virus writers are just getting nasty. So, yes, MS messes up a lot, and compromises your system safety for their profit, but at least this hole, allowing a web-page email to run a program automagically, is long-closed. All you have to do is keep up with the updates, both for Windows and for your anti-virus software. Ciao! Scot -- Scot Harkins (KA5KDU) Greenbank, WA, US Phone: 360-678-5880 Email: scoth at bigfoot.com URL -- ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Johnson" To: Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 1:58 AM Subject: SCN: E-mail viruses & worms. > This message is for those of you that download e-mail (whether from SCN or > else where) and read it with the usual Microsoft software. If you login > to SCN to read your e-mail (without downloading it) you need not worry, > even if you do receive infected e-mail. > > We see a relatively small but steady stream of messages containing e-mail > worms trying to infect other PCs. (Worms differ from viruses in that they > will run on their own.) The latest worms go through your files looking > for e-mail addresses of your friends and associates to send infected > messages to. This can be pretty embarassing! > > These worms can do this automatically because of some egregiously bad > "features" in MS software, such as the the _default_ behavior of > automatically opening e-mail attachments and running them. It is strongly > recommended by all authorities that these be turned off, and other > protective measures taken. > > If you need assistance in protecting your machine there are various sites > that can assist you, such as CERT (www.cert.org), which also has links to > the principal anti-virus software sites. Please check them out. > > === JJ ============================================================= > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * > . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: > majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: > unsubscribe scn > ==== Messages posted on this list are also available on the web at: ==== > * * * * * * * http://www.scn.org/volunteers/scn-l/ * * * * * * * > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn ==== Messages posted on this list are also available on the web at: ==== * * * * * * * http://www.scn.org/volunteers/scn-l/ * * * * * * * From emailer1 at netzero.net Mon May 27 05:52:56 2002 From: emailer1 at netzero.net (emailer1) Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 05:52:56 -0700 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <000901c2061f$b3fc3b80$7152fea9@desktop> This came across my e-mail. -- Webb Hubbell Bridgeport Group, LLC 4459 Westover Place, N.W. Washington, DC 20016 202-363-2264 > > AN OPEN LETTER TO JOHN ASHCROFT, > ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES > > > The following letter was read aloud by the author at this year's "In > Celebration of the Muse," Cabrillo College. The author is a woman of 60+ > years, conservatively dressed and obviously talented. She was the highlight > of the evening. > > ~~~~~~ > > On January 28, 2002, Attorney General John Ashcroft announced that > he spent $8,000 of taxpayer's money for drapery to cover up the exposed > breast of "The Spirit of Justice" statue, the 18-ft statue of a woman that > stands in the Department of Justice's Hall of Justice. > > John, John, John, you've got your priorities all wrong. While men > fly airplanes into skyscrapers, dive-bomb the pentagon, while they stick > explosives into their shoes and book a seat next to us, while they hide > knives in their luggage, steal kids on school buses, take little girls from > their beds at night, drive trucks into our Federal Buildings, while our > president calls dangerous men all over the world evildoers and devils, while > we live in the threat of biological warfare, nuclear destruction, > annihilation, YOU have spent time and money to save us from the appalling > alarming, abominable, aluminum alloy of evil, that terrible ten-foot tin > tittie. > > You might not be able to find Bin Laden. But you sure as hell found the > Hooter in the Hall of Justice. While we were begging the women of > Afghanistan to not cover up their faces, you were begging your staff to > cover up that nipple to save the American people the sight of that monstrous > metal mammary. > > So, apparently, in your office every morning, in your secret > prayer meeting, while an American woman is sexually assaulted every 6 > seconds, while anthrax floats around the post office and settles in the > chest of senior citizens, you've got a different chest on your mind. > > As American sons arrive home in body bags, and heat-seeking > missiles fly around a foreign country looking for warm bodies, you are > thinking of another body. And your prayer was for the biggest bra in the > world, John, because you see that breast on the "Spirit of Justice" in the > spirit of your own inhibited sexuality. > > When we women see our grandmothers, our mothers, our daughters, our > granddaughters, our sisters, ourselves, when we women see that statue the > Spirit of Justice, we see the spirit of strength, the spirit of survival. > > Every day we see innocent bodies dragged out of rubble, and women > and children laid out like thin limp dolls and baptized into death as > collateral damage, while the mother's milk of a hollow-eyed Afghani mother > has dried up underneath her burka in famine, and her children lie dead at > her breast. > > But you see that breast, John, that Jug on the Spirit of Justice > and feel embarrassment over sex, nakedness, and lust. We see > the Sprit of Justice as a testimony to motherhood. You see it as an > exposed tit. > > It's not the money it cost us. It's the message you sent. > > We've got the right to live in freedom. We've got the right to > cheat other Americans out of millions of dollars and then just not > want to tell Congress about it. > > We've got the right to drop bombs night and day on a small > country that has no army, no navy, no military at all, because we've got the > right to bear arms. But we'd better not even think about the right to bare > breasts. > > So now, John, you can be photographed while you stand there and > talk about guns and bombs and poisons without that breast appearing over > your right shoulder, without that bothersome bodacious bosom bugging you and > we just wanted to tell you in the spirit of justice in the spirit of truth: > > For all your efforts and concern, John, when you are up there > speaking, there is still a great big boob uncovered in the picture. > > -Claire Braz-Valentine > > >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hock at bj.case.com.cn Wed May 29 15:54:24 2002 From: hock at bj.case.com.cn (Service Center) Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 03:54:24 -1900 Subject: SCN: Looking For A Crisis Proof Investment? Message-ID: <00005e225720$00000b1d$000021a1@smtp.paradise.net.nz> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From HealthyStocks at excite.com Wed May 29 21:42:54 2002 From: HealthyStocks at excite.com (Healthy Stocks) Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 11:42:54 -1700 Subject: SCN: Growth Stock of the Week: (OTC BB:GTWY) O Message-ID: <000066901480$00004616$00007a2e@xmxpita.excite.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at advocate.net Wed May 29 12:58:23 2002 From: steve at advocate.net (Steve) Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 12:58:23 -0700 Subject: SCN: Magic Lantern Message-ID: <3CF4D06F.7269.6F92D6@localhost> x-no-archive: yes ===================== (Nat Hentoff, Village Voice, exerpts)---Beware of "The Magic Lantern." Under the "sneak and peek" provision of the USA Patriot Act, pushed through Congress by John Ashcroft, the FBI, with a warrant, can break into your home and office when you're not there and, on the first trip, look around. They can examine your hard drive, snatch files, and plant the Magic Lantern on your computer. It's also known as the "sniffer keystroke logger." Jim Dempsey, deputy director of the Washington-based Center for Democracy and Technology, tells me that you have to be remarkably computer-savvy to detect the presence of the Magic Lantern in some crevice in your computer. Once installed, the Magic Lantern creates a record of every time you press a key on the computer. It's all saved in plain text, and during the FBI's next secret visit to your home or office, that information is downloaded as the agents also pick up whatever other records and papers they find of interest. Dempsey, who has been my guide to increasingly invasive technology for years, points out that this new version of J. Edgar Hoover's "black bag jobs" is not subject to the "sunset" clause of the USA Patriot Act, which requires Congress to review in four years much of the rest of that law to see if Ashcroft went too far in dismantling the Constitution. These legal break-ins, including the use of the Magic Lantern, are not limited to investigations of terrorism but are now part of regular criminal investigations. By the way, in case you might be just musing at the computer - typing in thoughts or theories you don't intend to send - the Magic Lantern will capture those strokes, too. Under previous law, the FBI had to let you know right away when they've made these uninvited visits in your absence, and tell you what they've taken. The agents may have gone to the wrong address, which is not unheard of, or gotten a bad lead, or manifestly exceeded their authority. On being given swift notice of the FBI's burglaries, you could quickly challenge the search. But under the USA Patriot Act, the FBI can go to a judge and get permission for a "delayed notice" of up to 90 days. Moreover, during this open-ended Justice Department war on terrorism, the FBI can keep going to court for further "delayed notices," since part of these secret searches may ostensibly be concerned with terrorism. And, Jim Dempsey notes, if they don't find anything the first and second times, they can keep breaking into your home or office until they come across a smoking gun. Eventually, they'll have to tell you they've been there. Reuters also has reported that the Magic Lantern would allow "the agency [the FBI] to plant a Trojan horse keystroke logger on a target's PC by sending a computer virus over the Internet, rather than require physical access to the computer as is now the case." The Reuters December 12 story quotes the FBI as claiming the Magic Lantern "is a workbench project" that has not yet been deployed. But I have a copy of a May 8, 1999, application to a United States District Court in New Jersey from a U.S. Attorney in that state at the time, Faith Hochberg. It authorizes a "surreptitious entry" to search and seize "encryption key related pass phrases from [a] computer by installing a specialized computer program... which will allow the Government to read and interpret data that was previously seized pursuant to a search warrant." The application also asks permission for the FBI or its delegated entities to enter the location "surreptitiously, covertly, and by breaking and entering, if necessary" - and "as many times as may be necessary to install, maintain and remove the software, firmware or hardware." So a precursor of the Magic Lantern was in use back then - under Clinton's FBI - and it is Jim Dempsey's belief, and mine, that the state-of-the-art Magic Lantern is now in the field, among us. The FBI already told Reuters in December that it uses keystroke loggers. So beware of what you stroke. Copyright 2002 Village Voice Media Inc. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn ==== Messages posted on this list are also available on the web at: ==== * * * * * * * http://www.scn.org/volunteers/scn-l/ * * * * * * * From douglas at scn.org Thu May 30 08:36:50 2002 From: douglas at scn.org (Doug Schuler) Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 08:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: SCN: Carnivore Invaded Privacy (fwd) Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 22:03:49 -0700 From: steve zeltzer To: Labortech Subject: Carnivore Invaded Privacy http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/29/national/29EMAI.html May 29, 2002 Bin Laden Inquiry Was Hindered by F.B.I. E-Mail Tapping By JOHN SCHWARTZ In F.B.I. investigation two years ago that was apparently linked to Osama bin Laden's terrorist network was hampered by problems with the bureau's e-mail wiretap system. The system, Carnivore, which was supposed to pick up e-mail from targets of counterterrorism investigations, "also picked up the e-mails of noncovered" individuals, according to an internal bureau e-mail message dated April 5, 2000, that was made public yesterday. "The F.B.I. technical person was apparently so upset that he destroyed all the e-mail," apparently including mail related to the investigation, said the memorandum, addressed to M. E. Bowman, associate general counsel for national security affairs. Bureau documents written the next week said Carnivore had a tendency to cause "improper capture of data" that "not only can violate a citizen's privacy, but also can seriously `contaminate' ongoing investigations" through unlawful interceptions. Yesterday, a bureau official disputed the account in the memorandum. He said no information had been lost, because the e-mail had been recovered. The system gathered too much information, the official said, not because it was flawed or experimental, but because the Internet service provider gave agents outdated settings for the tapped computers. "The technology assistance provided by the I.S.P. is vital to proper configuration," the official said. Although the bureau would not comment directly about the target of the tap, the memorandum said the tap was conducted in Denver under counterterrorism laws for the "UBL Unit," presumably concerned with investigating Osama bin Laden, who is often referred to in government documents as Usama. The documents were made public under a Freedom of Information Act request from the Electronic Privacy Information Center, an advocacy and policy group in Washington. The bureau developed Carnivore to give it some of the power that it has historically had with telephones. The system can tap the communications stream of an Internet service provider to retrieve e-mail to and from the target of an investigation. The system can also retrieve just the e-mail addresses of senders and recipients of the target's e-mail, a method similar to technologies long used by investigators to capture phone numbers dialed by suspects and people who call them. The system, announced to the public in 2000, has been criticized by civil liberties advocates. They have said that it might collect more information than law enforcement is entitled to collect and that it samples the communications of many people not under investigation to capture a suspect's communications. Bureau officials have argued that Carnivore is carefully created and specific. The Web site for the agency says Carnivore "provides the F.B.I. with a `surgical' ability to intercept and collect the communications which are the subject of the lawful order while ignoring those communications which they are not authorized to intercept." Bureau engineers named the system Carnivore to signify that it found the meat of an investigation. The bureau has renamed the system DCS-1000, but it is still popularly known as Carnivore. In this case, however, it apparently went too far. "This contradicts everything they've said" about Carnivore for nearly two years, said David Sobel, general counsel for the Electronic Privacy Information Center. "Carnivore is a powerful but clumsy tool that endangers the privacy of innocent American citizens. We have now learned that its imprecision can also jeopardize important investigations, including those involving terrorism." * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . 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Its very confusing to most that microsoft just doesn't create a all products update site. ----- **** WARNING **** All unsolicited bulk e-mail (spam) received at this address will be promptly reported to the sender's system administrator, and to law enforcement authorities whenever applicable. (Done through SpamCop. See http://spamcop.net for details.) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to: majordomo at scn.org In the body of the message, type: unsubscribe scn ==== Messages posted on this list are also available on the web at: ==== * * * * * * * http://www.scn.org/volunteers/scn-l/ * * * * * * * From scoth at scn.org Thu May 30 18:34:51 2002 From: scoth at scn.org (Scot Harkins on scn.org) Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 18:34:51 -0700 Subject: SCN: Re: E-mail viruses & worms. References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020530090123.00bcb588@mail.spamcop.net> Message-ID: <008301c20843$60566160$2041a6d1@mshome.net> Yep, updating the Office products, especially for users of Outlook (not the free Outlook Express). It's worth noting that MS' most recent critical OS update, again tackling the HTML vulnerability for those who have not updated before, caused problems for some features in Outlook and in, get this, MS Internet Information Server, the MS webserver software shipped with servers (and workstations, though in dressed-down format). The new faults were not, to my knowledge, fatal, affecting fonts used in some display screens (find message, etc.). Woody's Windows Watch had some things to say about that, as did others, complaining about MS' increasingly shoddy in-house testing (like it was ever stellar). I, too, have wondered at the lack of combined update sites, but the logic is two-fold, part history and part political. The Windows Update site came online very shortly after Windows95 hit the streets. I seem to recall using it since as early as 1996, and I know I've used it since 1997. Office97 was the first Office product to sport a sorta-update site, but it was not quite so automatic. Office 2000 stepped forward to a true update format. The question at that point was whether to merge the two update sites, though my opinion is that the question never entered MS' mind, in part because the update process used for Office 2000 seemed quite different in its approach to updates, partly keeping track of license issues, I believe. The real hidden question behind the merge of the updates sites might fall in the political arena. A few years ago MS re-aligned its divisions, seemingly in a way that appeared, to me at least, ready for a breakup. It looked like the productivity product lines and OS lines were separated in a way that would be ready for a split. The appearance may have been for public consumption, since some of the allegations were that inside information and cooperation was passing between the MS OS and Office divisions (and other divisions, like SQL), allowing MS products access to undocumented features in the OS, or actually spurring features in the OS that other vendors could never hope to have added had they asked. Being ready for a split might strengthen the "division" nature of the divisions, implying they would no longer ride the elevator to meet with the dev team from another division. The problem, of course, is that people could still meet at lunch, or change departments and teams, moving between OS and productivity divisions and carrying perspectives and desires with them that would then influence the "other side". Unofficial official cooperation may have ended, but background cooperation would remain. Merging the OS and Office update sites would renew the question of cooperation. It would serve as a convenience for the customers, and a confirmation for anti-MS advocates of the ongoing background cooperation. Developers of competing products (Adobe, IBM/Lotus, RealNetworks, and so on) would perhaps be given ground to complain, and the states' Attorneys General would then have a bit more leverage to continue pushing their side again against a now unwilling Justice Department. So, I guess I'm not surprised the separate sites have not merged. I could hope they would, a little bit for convenience, and more to show MS really does have this kind of background cooperation going on even now. sh -- Scot Harkins (KA5KDU) Greenbank, WA, US Phone: 360-678-5880 Email: scoth at bigfoot.com URL -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From the Listowner * * * * * * * * * * * * . 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