[Ci4cg-announce] Fwd: How Collective Intelligence Can Create Better Policy & Strategy
Dmitry Sokolov
dmitry.v.sokolov at gmail.com
Wed Apr 19 16:57:38 PDT 2017
Thank you very much Doug!
Probably due to lack of time, your previous short answer produced too
much of turbulence in my head. :)
This kind of uncertainty is normal for situational intelligence.
However, when seen in theoretical matters like our discussion below, it
may lead to an idea that we are referring to different "collective
memories", if collective at all, and not individual.
As an example, I tried to look into a difference between civic and
collective intelligence. This page is not seen on the first Google page.
The topic exists on LiM:
http://confocal-manawatu.pbworks.com/w/page/109928029/Civic%20Intelligence%20vs%20Collective%20Intelligence
but the content is yet to be produced.
To my feeling Civic is not a type but an application of Collective
Intelligence. I can't see what makes Civic so much different from
Collective. Your comments would be appreciated.
Another question I would appreciate to discuss and hopefully agree on:
our collective (agent's) nature.
I have only a feeling of possibility of collective.
I will have a knowledge of collective only when seeing how our
collective memories, "personal associative networks", influence our
collective decisions and define our collective processes, including but
not limited to social. Seeing means visually. Seeing also means direct
access to every particular topic of my interest and every aspect of a
problem being solved.
This is not a dream. A working prototype can be demonstrated any time.
"The collective agent" is missing. That's why I am wondering whether
such an agent exists at all.
No memory = no learning = no intelligence.
Sorry for the long texts again.
I am looking forward to us coming to the same page, literally!
Many thanks again,
Dmitry
On 19/04/17 13:34, Doug Schuler wrote:
> Hi Dmitry,
>
> I /do/ associate with the idea of collective intelligence. I often
> refer to civic intelligence as a type of collective intelligence. I
> prefer the term /civic/ intelligence because it is specifically
> directed towards addressing social needs, an area that I think needs
> specific and immediate attention. The term /collective intelligence/
> can be applied towards non-civic ends (and through non-civic means).
>
> As for your earlier questions, I do want to get back to them. When I
> get some time! (hope hope)
>
> As for my statement about /agents/, I believe that when most people
> talk about collective intelligence, there is some agreement that
> collective intelligence is a phenomenon that some type of (collective)
> /agent /possesses.
>
> Thanks!!
>
> — Doug
>
>
> PS. I do intend to check out the MindHive book.
>
> On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 5:58 PM, Dmitry Sokolov
> <dmitry.v.sokolov at gmail.com <mailto:dmitry.v.sokolov at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Doug,
>
> should your message mean that you can't associate yourself with
> Collective Intelligence?
> If you can't who would?
>
> Cheers,
> Dmitry
>
> On 07/04/17 11:26, Doug Schuler wrote:
>> Hi Dmitry,
>>
>> I'm wondering what you mean by "general CI." I have a hard time
>> thinking about intelligence in the absence of an agent.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Dmitry Sokolov
>> <dmitry.v.sokolov at gmail.com <mailto:dmitry.v.sokolov at gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Interesting...
>> The final product is an e-book.
>> Can a book be the best format for CI?
>> How e-book can relate to collective memory?
>> What is a collective memory?
>> What instances of CM are known?
>> Why they are not widely used (for CI purposes too)?
>>
>> Should my questions above mean that CM doesn't exist, and in
>> the best case, we keep talking about Situational CI, i.e. CI
>> fragmented in space and time?
>> Any idea why we keep running away from General CI?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dmitry
>>
>> On 07/04/17 05:02, Marcus Foth wrote:
>>> Dear all
>>>
>>> FYI
>>>
>>> cheers, marcus
>>> Aarhus, DK
>>>
>>> --
>>> Professor Marcus Foth
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>>>
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>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>
>>>> *From: *The MindHive Team <info at mindhive.org
>>>> <mailto:info at mindhive.org>>
>>>> *Subject: **How Collective Intelligence Can Create Better
>>>> Policy & Strategy*
>>>> *Date: *6 April 2017 at 3:52:39 am GMT+2
>>>> *To: *<m.foth at qut.edu.au <mailto:m.foth at qut.edu.au>>
>>>> *Reply-To: *The MindHive Team <info at mindhive.org
>>>> <mailto:info at mindhive.org>>
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>>>> Hi Marcus,
>>>>
>>>> We are seeking your expertise to help us develop our
>>>> understanding and to further create a useful set of
>>>> learnings, scenarios, and ambitions for the future of
>>>> problem-solving.
>>>>
>>>> In*/MindHive: How Collective Intelligence Can Create Better
>>>> Policy and Strategy/*, MindHive CEO,Bruce Muirhead
>>>> <http://mindhive.us3.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bd44e324b729f0649ee8b3369&id=9a12dbc4c5&e=41b2eb1f47>,
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>>>> years, we’ve increasingly realised that the smartest person
>>>> in the room may well be the room itself. Our ability to
>>>> leverage collective intelligence in intuitive, easily
>>>> accessible and innovative online formats is now an emerging
>>>> reality.
>>>>
>>>> Drawing on client case studies with government and industry
>>>> leaders,*/MindHive/*is an intriguing look at how a simple
>>>> idea has grown from a few experts co-creating a
>>>> problem-solving process to almost 10,000 Hivers reshaping
>>>> government for the twenty-first century.
>>>>
>>>> Over the course of the next few months, the MindHive team
>>>> will be releasing draft chapters of the book on MindHive.
>>>> Today we have launched*/Chapter One: The Imperfect
>>>> Solution./*We want your input. All contributors will be
>>>> acknowledged in the book and receive a free copy of the
>>>> final e-book!
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> The MindHive Team
>>>>
>>>>
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