SCN as a spam problem

Kurt Cockrum kurt at grogatch.seaslug.org
Tue Sep 16 14:21:04 PDT 1997


Stefani said:
>In any event, what is observed is the transmittal of UCE and UBE to
>thousands of addresses, via SCN.  Failure of SCN to take action could
>result in SCN being locked out of mail connections to other machines.  And
>if SCN were somehow being used as a USENET spam originator, a UDP ("USENET
>DEATH PENALTY") against SCN could result.

jj was mentioning in an earlier post about how our internet connection
was under jeopardy because others were apparently perceiving us as an
internet wrongdoer.

[flame on]
Ya know what pisses me off about the whole tone of this discussion?
We seem to have a problem and there are all these expert USENET DEATH PENALTY
administrators apparently out there who represent a dire threat against us,
a presumably civic-minded public internet access point, while at the
SAME TIME, being ABSOLUTELY NO THREAT TO THE SPAMMERS whatever, AND NO HELP
to us in solving our problem.  In other words, it is the sorely beset net
citizen (us) who is getting the crap from the net.authorities, not the bad guys.

They nail your feet to the floor and then tell you to run faster.
What's wrong with this picture?  This is precisely the problem with conventional
"civilization".  The authorities can only bluster and threaten (with real threats,
to be sure), and alienate members of their own community, but they are totally
powerless to deal with the barbs at all.  I don't know hou much longer the
so-called internet can hold up.  I'll bet *all* e-mail and other internet traffic
will wind up being *tightly* regulated, for the "greater good of the people".
That would certainly qualify as an "unintended consequence", at least from our side.
Strong cryptography looks like it's on its way down the tube, as a case in point.
Everybody got their "sneaky-stash" of PGP safely tucked away?
--kurt
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