Discussion: Sharma and Rich

Joe Mabel jmabel at saltmine.com
Thu Dec 3 17:30:55 PST 1998


1) I'm not going to attack or defend anyone's style of email
2) It seems reasonable that a member might ask the board to make a good 
faith effort to post agendas before board meetings and minutes afterwards.

-----Original Message-----
From:	Kenneth Crandall [SMTP:grayfox at foxinternet.net]
Sent:	Thursday, December 03, 1998 5:05 PM
To:	Rich Littleton
Cc:	Sharma; scna-board at scn.org; scn at scn.org; bb140 at scn.org
Subject:	RE: Discussion: Sharma and Rich

Rich,
I can not speak to the issue of "doable" and "essential" tasks as I have 
not
examined what would be required to accomplish any of the items that you 
have
mentioned.

I would assume that your proposed items are among the many items that are
proposed for action for SCN volunteers.  Before is possible to determine
what is "essential", it is necessary to understand all outstanding
proposals.  I would assume that priority goes to those tasks necessary for
day-to-day operation.

Once a task has been identified as "Essential" or "Important", a strategy
for accomplishing the task must be established (by the committee who would
have to implement?).  Some tasks may prove difficult, excessively 
expensive,
or impossible.

I believe that I have read that the board is working on the advance agenda.
This should be possible for most items but I wouldn't be surprised if
several items are proposed immediately prior to the meeting.  These would
not be part of an advanced agenda.  Would the board then be accused of
hiding agenda items?

I would assume that the board minutes (if they are taken at all) are terse
(they would be if I had to take them).  If they are taken, they should be
available for the membership at some location.

I have not promoted silence.  I have promoted "rational" discussion.  I 
have
sat on volunteer boards.  All ideas are "essential" to the promoters, but
not all ideas can be accomplished (too many or not possible).  The 
questions
I would be asking would deal with the processes used to establish 
priorities
for proposed ideas and the methodology used to determine feasibility of
proposed system changes.  If these processes are lacking I would argue
(rationally) for their adoption based upon the merits that without these
processes rational action can't be determined.  If the processes are in
place, I would ask how they were applied to my projects.

										Ken Crandall
										bd252 at scn.org

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-scn at scn.org [mailto:owner-scn at scn.org]On Behalf Of Rich
> Littleton
> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 1998 12:37 AM
> To: Kenneth Crandall
> Cc: Sharma; scna-board at scn.org; scn at scn.org; bb140 at scn.org
> Subject: RE: Discussion: Sharma and Rich
>
>
>
> Ken,
>
> I would have wished that your included some element of the lack of doable
> and essential tasks in your comment.
>
> If your are saying, everybody shut up, my reply is, sorry.  If your are
> saying this issue discussion could be done differently, then show us the
> way.
>
> Issues
> Is universal voting important?  Why hasn't it been established?
> Is advance notice to the members of board discussions important?  Why
> hasn't it been established?
> Is posting board minutes important?  Etc.
>
> Later,
>
> Rich
>
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