difficult e-mail?

[Rich Littleton]

JJ,

You did this before.  What is the purpose of your question?  If I give you
2 or 3 which are more friendly, what is your response?  Will you then
publicly join in an effort to  get a friendlier system?

Or was your question meant only to derail the discussion.  

But I'm not the one that has to be convinced.  Its the people who get an
account and then have to deal with the complex e-mail system.  It also
appears to be the SPL.

Tell them how easy Pine and Freeport e-mail programs are.

Rich

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On Mon, 14 Sep 1998, John Johnson wrote:

> 
> Rich:  I, also, "am not impressed that the terminology became the issue."
> But the rest of us are not mind-readers; and since we do not have direct
> access to your mind we have to go by what you say.  If you use the wrong
> term, it _does_ become an issue.  So be more careful!
> 
> As to the main point of the issue:  Pine was designed, and is generally
> deemed to be, as "friendly" as possible.  Of course, there is an inherent
> contradiction here:  "friendly" is often expected to be both powerful
> (lots of choices) and simple (few choices).  And _any_ system that one is
> familiar with tends to seem friendlier than any other system.  But
> allowing for all that, I don't think you can point to any other e-mail
> program that is more "friendly" than Pine.  (Can you?)
> 
> === JJ =================================================================
> 
> On Sun, 13 Sep 1998, Rich Littleton wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Hold it, hold it.
> > 
> > Two Points
> > 
> > 1. The issue is not the name of the software.  I initially referred to
> > Freeport E-mail and Pine as Unix=based programs (also, "Unix programs"). 
> > I thought I was speaking analogously to calling pre-Windows Wordperfect a
> > DOS program.  Apparently that is incorrect and you can run Freeport and
> > Pine on other operating systems so it is incorrect to refer to either
> > Freeport e-mail or Pine e-mail as "Unix-based" or "Unix programs". My
> > apologies. 
> > 
> > 2. However, I'm not impressed that the terminology became the issue.  The
> > issue under discussion when this came up was that Freeport and Pine (on
> > whatever operating system they run on, I guess) are difficult for users. 
> > 
> > The library also thinks they are difficult for users.
> > 
> > 	a.	This affects potential SCN user loyalty.
> > 	b.	This affects Seattle Public Library assessment of SCN's
> > contribution.
> > 
> > Those are the issues.
> > 
> > Now, let's deal with these issues.  
> > 
> > Okay?
> > 
> > 
> > Rich
> > 
> > 
> > 
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