Absence of target populations; background checks

[Rich Littleton]

The point is, anyone (I won't say "idiot") pushing for this new effort
(background checks) has the burden of showing specifically (not alleging)
that SCN fits the requirements.

>From the quotes I've seen, there is the need for an entity to have
exclusive or sole control over the target populations.  SCNA doesn't fit
that.  So, whoever wants background checks, get us quotes showing that SCN
fits the picture (and name the relevant SCN tasks)

Until then, discussion is getting us no----where.

Rich

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On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Malcolm Taran wrote:

> On Sun. 24 Oct
> Janos wrote
> > That 7 year old boy... even with other teachers...was a liability..
> 
> you (Rich) had also written
> > However, there were 2 other teachers, and 5 students, and it was in a
> public library.
> 
> Yes, there exist human predators, there have been as far
> back as we have history--back before writing.  But we 
> are no more under siege than we ever have been; less now 
> 'cause we no longer hide or ignore human predation.
> 
> I volunteer with the Boy Scouts.  I had to submit to the 
> WSP background check formality--but that's national 
> policy.  More importantly, they _teach_ adult volunteers 
> _and_boys_ about _awareness_.  For adults, for just a 
> little example, _never_ be with a boy or boys alone--
> always have another adult present.   Awareness and 
> teaching awareness require no ID and no background 
> checks.  I submit it is effective as red tape and 
> implicit external authority cannot ever be.
> 
> Rich wrote
> > Given our difficulties in recruiting (and keeping) volunteers, we won't
> > have enough vols. to expand our services...
> 
> We have that problem right now.
> 
> > ...  Rather that putting effort 
> > into processes that intrude on potential vols. (which we don't have
> > enough
> > of), lets focus on real and existing issues.
> 
> Yes, Janos, we do need to be intelligent, and 
> forthright, about dealing with risk.
> 
> If an adult teaching a child in public is a 
> liability, our society, values, and our collective 
> mental health are in _serious_ trouble.
> 
> Rich, Kurt, someone needs to gather some 
> quantitative data.  This discussion is getting 
> hysterical--and not just in fun.
> 
> Malcolm Taran
> 
> 

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