SCN: SCN message board added

patrick clariun at yahoo.com
Sun Dec 9 09:15:03 PST 2001 

Michael,

As I said, EZBoards is temporary until we get something installed on
SCN. EZBoards is a fine service. It is just that you get what you pay
for. If you pay, you get no ads. Sounds like a viable economical
model to me.

The message boards you describe are Usenet groups. The are distinctly
different. A Usenet group is not a message board. And many people
would not use the Usenet groups since most people are simply web
surfers, so a message board is a better idea. And unlike a Usenet
group, a message board allows you to see all of the posts, not just
one reply after another.

Thank you for replying. User input is much appreciated.

Patrick

--- Michael Hanson <michaelh at scn.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, 8 Dec 2001, patrick wrote:
> 
> > Michael,
> > 
> > What message boards are there at SCN already has? I'm not aware
> of
> > any.
> 
> Here is a partial list (gleened grom my .newsrc)
> 
> scn.whatsnew: 1-127
> scn.questions: 1-1668
> scn.bugs: 1-1860
> scn.ideas: 1-543
> scn.news.offline: 1-300
> scn.newbieland: 1-1906
> scn.admin.newsgroups: 1-394
> scn.events.forum: 1-448
> scn.cpsr.general: 1-107
> scn.sustainable.general: 1-200
> scn.earthsave.general: 1-200
> scn.sastro.news: 1-192
> scn.sastro.sky: 1-548
> scn.sastro.talk: 1-252
> scn.test: 1-238
> scn.volunteers.general: 1-100
> scn.admin.policy.changes: 1-44
> scn.admin.committees.hardw-software: 1-187
> scn.admin.committees.webmasters: 1-1970
> scn.admin.committees.services: 1-34 
> 
> > 
> > The purpose of the message boards is to allow people to see what
> > other people are voicing likes and dislikes about. I was not
> clear
> > about the meaning of the forums because I want to keep it as
> flexible
> > and broad as possible.
> > 
> > The news server is one other thing in a list of things to get
> > implemented, but very tentative. I'm doing what I can on the
> front
> > end. There are a lot of things that take priority over the news
> > server for now. Google has news right now, so there is an
> > alternative.
> 
> Google does not carry the local SCN groups, which were the main
> ones I was
> meaning.  (Sure, you can get outside news from lots of places - but
> the
> "fora" described in SCN's Policy Statement were implemented as
> local
> usenet groups.) 
> 
> Ezboard is plainly an inferior piece of rubbish - splattered with
> adds
> (not compatible with SCN philosophy), throws up all sorts of pop-up
> windows, and I would be very surprised if it is at all usable with
> Lynx. 
> 
> Why is the news server tentative?  We had one. Did something happen
> to the
> machine?  Did software rot set in?  Is it more than a matter of
> just
> fixing whatever is wrong with the machine or software?  (Outside
> news
> feeds are, of course, harder to handle, but since there are other
> ways to
> get them, all we realy need are the local newsgroups.  Much less of
> a
> processing/disk/bandwidth problem.)  (Of course I realize things
> like
> fixing the mail server so we can recieve all our mail comes first.)
> 
> 
> > 
> > And I will add a forum for "things broken". Good suggestion and I
> > appreciate it.
> > 
> Thanks.
> 
> > Patrick
> > Seattle Community Network
> > 
> > --- Michael Hanson <michaelh at scn.org> wrote:
> > > 
> > > So why are we creating new message boards instead of getting
> our
> > > news
> > > server back on line and using the ones we already have? 
> > > 
> > > It would be helpful to add one for problem reports/etc.
> > > Where people can see if a problem has already been reported,
> > > and hopefully those fixing things can post progress reports.
> > > (Also helpful when the problem you need to report is that
> > > SCN e-mail isn't working.)
> > >   ("What do you dislike about SCN" sounds like more of a
> > > design discussion forum, than a place to bring up things
> > > like our news server being down and the current mailer
> > > problems.  If those are appropriate topics, then perhaps a 
> > > cover page explaining scope of group would be in order.)
> > > 
> > >   Thanks,
> > >   Michael
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Sat, 8 Dec 2001, patrick wrote:
> > > 
> > > > There is now a message board for SCN. Please see Featured
> Sites
> > > for
> > > > December for a link to the board. The direct link is here:
> > > > http://pub50.ezboard.com/bseattlecommunitynetwork .
> > > > 
> > > > This board is currently external (www.ezboard.com), however
> there
> > > are
> > > > discussions being held to add an SCN-hosted message
> board/bbs,
> > > using
> > > > either phpbb (www.phpbb.com) or the Discus software
> > > > (www.discusware.com).
> > > > 
> > > > If you want to provide input on a permanent message board for
> > > SCN,
> > > > please do so on the message board. There are currently two
> areas
> > > to
> > > > the board: "What do you like about SCN" and "What do you
> dislike
> > > > about SCN." You can view the feedback of others on the board.
> > > > 
> > > > Patrick
> > > > Seattle Community Network
> > > > 
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