SCN: Re: Possible Roles for SCN -- and what we can do about it...
patrick
clariun at yahoo.com
Thu Nov 1 09:56:16 PST 2001
That should be the beginning of May. Not February.
Patrick
--- patrick <clariun at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Doug,
>
> I'll put your conference information on my Yahoo calendar and put
> it
> up on the homepage in February.
>
> Patrick
>
>
> --- Doug Schuler <douglas at scn.scn.org> wrote:
> >
> > Two quick things --
> >
> > I wanted to add the idea of computer recycling to the list
> > (thanks, Joe!).
> >
> > I also want to second Lorraine's comments about SCN's non-profit
> > status. There are, of course, some restrictions on what we
> > can do as a non-profit but they basically don't apply at
> > all to my suggestions. One of the most important of the
> > non-profit restrictions is that we can't spend over a certain
> > percentage of our resources in lobbying efforts. This means
> > lobbying for *specific* pieces of legislation or candidates.
> > It doesn't have an impact the ISSUE based educational effort
> > that I was talking about it.
> >
> > There *are* some issues that arise with providing free
> > ISP services I gather. The Oregon Public Network (if I'm
> > not mistaken) just concluded a multi-year hassle with the
> > IRS over some of these issues. There was a sort of
> > compromise I hear but I do not understand the issues.
> > If and when we move further in this direction -- and I'd
> > support it -- there are some issues that we'd have to
> > face. I don't think it necessarily implies getting
> > rid of our status, however.
> >
> > -- Doug
> >
> >
> >
> ******************************************************************
> > * SHAPING THE NETWORK SOCIETY
>
> > *
> > * Patterns for Participation,Action, and Change
>
> > *
> > * http://www.cpsr.org/conferences/diac02
>
> > *
> > * Tomorrow's information and communication infrastructure
>
> > *
> > * is being shaped today.
>
> > *
> > * But by whom and to what ends?
>
> > *
> >
> >
> ******************************************************************
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 31 Oct 2001, emailer1 wrote:
> >
> > > I agree with Doug.
> > >
> > > I would put two ideas first. After those two things, the rest
> > would become
> > > doable.
> > >
> > > First thing: Become a stable ISP (internet hookup entity).
> That
> > might
> > > require charging $5.00 per person per month but then we could
> > give up the
> > > non-profit status and do some high-powered lobbying.
> > >
> > > Our non-profit status blocks us completely from doing numbers
> > number 5, and
> > > seriously cripples us from doing 1, 7, 8, and 9.
> > >
> > > THEN, I would make sure that the SCNA e-mail was (a) as easy
> > Outlook (could
> > > use Outlook) and (b) was HTML able.
> > >
> > > After that, we would gather members like lawns gathering leaves
> > in fall.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Doug Schuler <douglas at scn.org>
> > > To: <scn at scn.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 3:42 PM
> > > Subject: SCN: Possible Roles for SCN -- and what we can do
> about
> > it...
> > >
> > >
> > > > Possible Roles for SCN -- and what we can do about it...
> > > >
> > > > SCNites,
> > > >
> > > > I've compiled a quick note which I think (HOPE!) may help us
> > now and in
> > > > the future.
> > > >
> > > > The first part of the note is a brief list of all of the
> > possible roles
> > > > for SCN I could think of this morning over my second cup of
> > coffee.
> > > >
> > > > After this list I make a simple suggestion that I think could
> > (help)
> > > > guide further development on SCN. I'd love to know what you
> > think.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------ possible roles for SCN --
> > > > (PS. there are many others -- let me know what they are and
> > I'll add
> > > them)
> > >
> > > > [Note, I added numbers to Doug's list.]
> > >
> > > > 1. Assume a place at the table for developing city /
> > regional / state
> > > (and
> > > > other?) ICT initiatives and policy. (ICT = "information and
> > > > communication technology)
> > > >
> > > > 2. Provide low / no cost ICT services (email, listservs,
> web
> > pages,
> > > etc.)
> > > >
> > > > 3. Provide useful civic and community content on our web
> > site (and
> > > other
> > > > places?)
> > > >
> > > > 4. Provide portal to Seattle community / civic
> information,
> > > applications
> > > > and services
> > > >
> > > > 5. Agitate for socially responsible ICT policy locally,
> > regionally, and
> > > > beyond
> > > >
> > > > 6. Perform training and other pubic education
> > > >
> > > > 7. Help define and develop future community / civic
> > information,
> > > > applications and services
> > > >
> > > > 8. Work with community / civic groups to develop relevant
> > ICT
> > > applications
> > > > and services
> > > >
> > > > 9. Take part in regional, national, and international
> > coalitions to
> > > > advance community / civic ICT goals.
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If we asked everybody in SCN to prioritize these possible
> roles
> > > > I'm assuming that we'd have some champions for each and every
> > one of
> > > > these roles.
> > > >
> > > > So which of these roles should we as SCN volunteers address?
> > > >
> > > > ALL OF THEM.
> > > >
> > > > But, people will say, we don't have the resources to do ALL
> OF
> > THEM.
> > > > That's right! We don't have the resources AT THE MOMENT to
> do
> > all of
> > > > them. So, at this point in time let's not do ALL of them.
> In
> > fact, at
> > > > any given point in time, let's just focus on the ones in
> which
> > we have
> > > > volunteers who are willing to do the work.
> > > >
> > > > We have to realize that ALL of these issues are important and
> > that they
> > > > together form a coherent body of work that SCN stands for.
> > > >
> > > > We have, in fact, worked on all of them, at one time or
> > another.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not against setting priorities. We have to do that! But
> > that
> > > > shouldn't be used as an excuse to rule out a relevant piece
> of
> > work.
> > > >
> > > > Let's do the limited amount of work that we can do. The way
> I
> > see it,
> > > > however, there is no reason to ban certain activities. The
> > situation
> > > > is dynamic -- we need to be dynamic as well!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > -- Doug
> > > >
> > > >
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