SCN: SCN site and logo redesign

[Irene Mogol]

I agree with these comments.   Or am I too late, just got back from 2
weeks in Australia where even the kangaroos have websites.
Irene


On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, Doug Schuler wrote:

> 
> Since flaming is not a problem for you, Patrick, I'll flame away... :-)
> 
> Basically I have two comments --
> 
> The first is that I think the current logo is fine.  Perhaps clean it up a
> bit, fine-tune, etc. SCN currently has a logo that is distinctive and has
> been identified with our efforts over the years.  It has been used in
> presentations to large audiences both in the states and elsewhere and has
> been shown in print in many venues.  I think that changing the logo --
> especially as I fear to make it more dot-commy, more space-age, or
> whatever by "modernizing" it and taking any edge it might have off is
> really a bad idea.  (It reminds me a bit of my [five-year] *old* essay on
> "how to kill community networks -
> http://www.scn.org/commnet/kill-commnets.html.  We're NOT the phone
> company searching for a logo that looks coolest, we're a community network
> system with a set of idealistic principles
> (http://www.scn.org/commnet/principles.html) that are still critical (and
> probably always will be).
> 
> The second is that this redesign is NOT what we need at the moment.  If
> anybody has taken a look at our web page this YEAR they'll know what I'm
> talking about.  Yes, it has been nearly a year since there was any sort of
> content on our front page.  It looks (and has for months and months!!!)
> like the "message of the day" on a unix dialup system. When I think of all
> the squandered opportunity here I feel almost sick.  This site gets
> thousands and thousands of hits every month and it has almost always been
> some message like "SCN is moving in 3 months" or "SCN now back on line."
> 
> We had an excellent model almost all of last year -- see
> http://www.scn.org/week/ -- but that went away.  I don't know if it was
> internal politics but it was a very palpable NET LOSS for SCN and what
> we're trying to accomplish with SCN.
> 
> I am sorry for *flaming* here but I have written probably 10 letters to
> the board and to others and to the best of my knowledge I have never
> received any feedback on this issue.
> 
> Redesign, schmedesign, let's put some CONTENT on our front page!!!!
> 
> -- Doug
> 
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> On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, patrick wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > This message was originally posted to the webmasters and webeditors email
> > lists. JJ brought it to my attention that I should post the message about the
> > site and logo redesign to this list. I'm new to the list as of 5 minutes ago.
> > 
> > SCN is planning on updating the site to make it look more professional. 
> > 
> > This is the goal for the site redesign communicated to me by Ti Locke:
> > 
> > The goal is have the board vote on two or three possibilities for both a logo
> > and a site redesign and then ask SCN users to comment. Meeting is 9/13, with
> > comment period of say, two weeks...with new logo and site design going up first
> > week in October. That would put Ti right on the timeline for both
> > grantwriting...and having web mail up and running. 
> > 
> > Patrick
> > SCN Web Team Coordinator/Webmaster
> > 
> > P.S. Did I leave anyone out of the loop?
> > 
> > P.P.S. If you have logo ideas, sketches, complaints, accolades, please email
> > them to this email address and I will collate them and let the board see them.
> > Everyone's input is important. We need to hear how you feel about what the logo
> > should express, what colors we may want to use for the site, type of layout. So
> > give us your ideas.
> > 
> > Don't worry about flaming me. It's been a cooler than normal summer and I wear
> > virtual asbestos.
> > 
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