SCN: websites to feature

[patrick]

I would hope that people would be considerate of those using Lynx
browsers. Especially make it ADA compliant with Bobby (sp?).

--- Doug Schuler <douglas at scn.org> wrote:
> 
> I'm somewhere in the middle.  While I probably wouldn't
> want to make it a requirement there are several EASY things
> that can be done to make your site lynx compatible.  Also,
> as I understand it, software that "speaks" out loud (for
> blind people, e.g.) works better with text.
> 
> -- Doug
> 
> 
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> On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, patrick wrote:
> 
> > I am sure most webmasters have decided not to worry about the
> Lynx
> > crowd.
> > 
> > If 99 percent of the people that come to their site uses browser
> x or
> > browser y, then they will 'program' for those and write off the 1
> > percent. They probably think they shouldn't spend 20 percent of
> their
> > time for that 1 percent.
> > 
> > It depends who your audience is. If your audience ONLY serfs the
> web
> > to get the lastest and hotest game updates, then I doubt someone
> with
> > a dial-in connection is going to care much. They may have a 386.
> > 
> > However, if your site is text driven, community driven, you may
> be
> > more considerate to all browsers. Include WebTV? Include AOL?
> Include
> > Palms? Put a detector in your html and build for each browser?
> > 
> > Or use the K.I.S.S. (Keep it simple) system and throw in some CCS
> for
> > the ADA crowd (which I think is a great idea), if you are pouring
> out
> > information and that is your mission in life.
> > 
> > But I don't feel I should have to make my site compatible with
> the
> > first browsers that ever came out. If 5 people on the planet use
> a
> > particular browswer, I am not going to be considerate of them.
> > 
> > I think Lynx is great. The fact that it does drop-down menus and
> I
> > can check my Yahoo mail - well, that is incredible.
> > 
> > How many people use it? I don't think it is that hard to program
> for
> > the Lynx crowd. I assume it is easy to screw up and not make it
> easy
> > for them.
> > 
> > But your basic Meat-and-Potatoes web site? That should handle
> links,
> > I should think.
> > 
> > Patrick
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- Lois Beedle <ljbeedle at scn.org> wrote:
> > > I seem to have missed something.  We went from discussing
> featuring
> > > websites to what links to have.  As a topic editor I link to
> > > anything
> > > anyone requests that fits into my topic whether I agree with
> their
> > > point
> > > of view or not, whether I can 'see' their page or not. I do not
> > > feel that
> > > SCN desires to hold anyone else to the standard that I thought
> we
> > > had for
> > > our own information providers.
> > > 
> > > But I do feel strongly that accessibility is a serious matter
> and I
> > > thought that was what we were all about.  When I use lynx I
> expect
> > > to be
> > > able to 'see' any page hosted on scn.  That is not always the
> case.
> > >  I
> > > would expect that any site featured by scn would be 'seeable'
> by
> > > me.
> > > 
> > > Folks need to know that one can have an good looking
> interesting
> > > page on
> > > scn - with some bells and whistles for graphics folks and still
> be
> > > accessible by those who can not see all the fancy stuff.  What
> > > better way
> > > than featuring them?
> > > 
> > > When I built my first two sites I was never able to see them on
> > > line with 
> > > a graphics browser.  I still put up graphics that others
> enjoyed -
> > > with
> > > alt tags for the rest of us.
> > > 
> > > Lois
> > >  Dip it in chocolate, it'll be fine.
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Scot Harkins on scn.org wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I tend towards the inclusive attitude for links, even
> external
> > > links that
> > > > may not follow our web design standards.
> > > > 
> > > > Lynx may seem out of date but it's actually a gateway to
> broad
> > > usability.
> > > > We are one of the few Webster _in the world_ that can be
> browsed
> > > by visually
> > > > impaired users with browser devices that render web pages to
> > > Braille or that
> > > > navigate sites in visually simple ways.  I don't know that we
> are
> > > actually
> > > > pursuing the ADA standards, but the fact that we are both a
> > > community
> > > > resource and an accessible resource is unique.
> > > > 
> > > > The web has exploded as a world full of eye-candy, which only
> > > works for
> > > > those with eyes that can see.  Those few sites trying to
> address
> > > ADA
> > > > standards feature either a low-graphic version of their site
> or
> > > actually
> > > > seek to detect the remote browser and load browser-targeted
> > > pages.  Each of
> > > > these requires parallel site development.  Keeping a focus on
> > > simple design
> > > > standards make the pages easier to browse for all users.
> > > > 
> > > > In 20 years the majority of the people in our country will be
> > > over 65 years
> > > > old.  How many of them will appreciate our continuing efforts
> and
> > > the
> > > > efforts of others to make the information world easier to
> use?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Scot
> > > > 
> > > 
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