SCN: Re: SCN's web front page

[patrick]

Hi Randy,

Thank you for the feedback. I greatly appreciate it.

I was wondering if we could look into implementing, or at least
investigating, a community bulletin board for the site. This in line
with providing more content for the site and making SCN more of a
destination. It was mentioned that SCN has three CGIs available on
it's system to provide this feature.

An example of a community bulletin board provided to me:

http://faculty.washington.edu/jimward/

Thanks much,
Patrick
Webmaster/Web Team Coordinator


--- Randy Groves <randy at scn.org> wrote:
> 
> Thank you Patrick, for being able to see the path ahead through the
> thorns
> that we and situations seem to be throwing in your way.
> 
> I appreciate your efforts and your willingness to persevere.
> 
> If there is anything that we in Operations can do to assist or make
> the
> situation less onerous, please let us and/or me know, and we'll see
> what
> we can do.
> 
> -randy
> 
> 
> On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, patrick wrote:
> 
> > I think we should not make a mountain out of a molehill.
> >
> > rwrap is intended to archive page changes and to track who
> changed
> > what on this multi-person system.
> >
> > It is not a big deal and it is a minor quibble. Sure, I would
> love to
> > just ftp a file up, but rwrap is not an issue. What is a big deal
> is
> > getting familiar with the vi editor or pico, neither of which I
> love
> > with a passion. Neither of which require a large amount of
> training
> > to learn.
> >
> > I did run into a small problem with updating the page in
> reference to
> > rwrap. I emailed JJ on in just a moment ago and it should be
> fixed
> > pretty quickly.
> >
> > I hope that people don't feel I am taking sides and being
> opinionated
> > on this topic. I am saying that there are, of course, only a
> couple
> > of people, at the most, who will be updating the homepage. With
> that,
> > rwrap should be of little concern to anyone else.
> >
> > The homepage will be updated as quickly as possible.
> >
> > Patrick
> > Webmaster/Web Team Coordinator
> >
> >
> > --- Lorraine Pozzi <femme2 at scn.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't know what's going on lately.  I do know that I offered
> > > to take over some of the tasks that NancyK had been doing
> > > before she died and was given such an absurd runaround that
> > > I finally decided it was pointless to volunteer.  Among other
> > > requirements - I had to speak directly with Nancy!
> > >
> > > I am not surprised that SCN is hurting for cash.  In fact,
> > > when I saw the money plea, I thought I knew just how
> > > Dr. Lewinski felt when the Democratic Party asked for his
> > > check.
> > >
> > > Lorraine
> > > -------------------
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Rod Clark wrote:
> > >
> > > > Randy Groves wrote:
> > > > > 'rwrap' is NOT required.  It was suggested as a tool, to
> > > provide backup in
> > > > > case of errors - NOT required.
> > > > >
> > > > > There have been NO restrictions imposed, either
> > > programmatically nor by
> > > > > policy that removes the ability to edit files with vi,
> pico,
> > > etc.
> > > >
> > > > Randy,
> > > >
> > > >    That is not true, on both counts. The home page has total
> > > > no-write permissions for the members of the topics group, who
> if
> > > > your ststement were true would have write access to edit it
> with
> > > > pico or other text editors. But they do NOT have that access.
> > > > See for yourself:
> > > >
> > > > 4 -r-xr-xr-x  1 guests   topics       3728 Aug 21 13:12
> > > index.html*
> > > >
> > > >    The ONLY way that the home page can be updated is by using
> > > > rwrap. You are misleading everyone when you say this is
> > > > optional.
> > > >
> > > >    It is also now required by policy to use rwrap. I asked
> the
> > > > acting Executive Director on Thursday, "Will you remove rwrap
> so
> > > > that Patrick can update the home page?" The answer was "no."
> > > >
> > > >    Because Patrick couldn't FTP the home page file last week
> > > > (because of the no-write permissions that block FTP), he
> asked
> > > > me for help with rwrap, which I tried to give him based on my
> > > > recollection of an earlier version of rwrap, but it wasn't
> > > > enough to get the page up. The page still isn't up. And this
> is
> > > > the actual, truthful reason. That is the answer to the
> question
> > > > that the three volunteers - Irene, Lee and Elaine - asked on
> > > > this list.
> > > >
> > > >    Communicating with ourselves, and with all the volunteers,
> is
> > > > vitally important, and it can't be left to the PR efforts of
> > > > only a few people in top positions. You and I both were
> confused
> > > > about this, because of the lack of forthright communications
> > > > with volunteers about the situation. Content is being
> sacrificed
> > > > because technical considerations like this are being placed
> > > > first by a leadership with a too-stubborn technical focus.
> And
> > > > this is the future of SCN's site, and of SCN itself, before
> our
> > > > eyes.
> > > >
> > > > Rod Clark
> > > >
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