SCN: Re: SCN's web front page

[Randy Groves]

Thank you Patrick, for being able to see the path ahead through the thorns
that we and situations seem to be throwing in your way.

I appreciate your efforts and your willingness to persevere.

If there is anything that we in Operations can do to assist or make the
situation less onerous, please let us and/or me know, and we'll see what
we can do.

-randy


On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, patrick wrote:

> I think we should not make a mountain out of a molehill.
>
> rwrap is intended to archive page changes and to track who changed
> what on this multi-person system.
>
> It is not a big deal and it is a minor quibble. Sure, I would love to
> just ftp a file up, but rwrap is not an issue. What is a big deal is
> getting familiar with the vi editor or pico, neither of which I love
> with a passion. Neither of which require a large amount of training
> to learn.
>
> I did run into a small problem with updating the page in reference to
> rwrap. I emailed JJ on in just a moment ago and it should be fixed
> pretty quickly.
>
> I hope that people don't feel I am taking sides and being opinionated
> on this topic. I am saying that there are, of course, only a couple
> of people, at the most, who will be updating the homepage. With that,
> rwrap should be of little concern to anyone else.
>
> The homepage will be updated as quickly as possible.
>
> Patrick
> Webmaster/Web Team Coordinator
>
>
> --- Lorraine Pozzi <femme2 at scn.org> wrote:
> >
> > I don't know what's going on lately.  I do know that I offered
> > to take over some of the tasks that NancyK had been doing
> > before she died and was given such an absurd runaround that
> > I finally decided it was pointless to volunteer.  Among other
> > requirements - I had to speak directly with Nancy!
> >
> > I am not surprised that SCN is hurting for cash.  In fact,
> > when I saw the money plea, I thought I knew just how
> > Dr. Lewinski felt when the Democratic Party asked for his
> > check.
> >
> > Lorraine
> > -------------------
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Rod Clark wrote:
> >
> > > Randy Groves wrote:
> > > > 'rwrap' is NOT required.  It was suggested as a tool, to
> > provide backup in
> > > > case of errors - NOT required.
> > > >
> > > > There have been NO restrictions imposed, either
> > programmatically nor by
> > > > policy that removes the ability to edit files with vi, pico,
> > etc.
> > >
> > > Randy,
> > >
> > >    That is not true, on both counts. The home page has total
> > > no-write permissions for the members of the topics group, who if
> > > your ststement were true would have write access to edit it with
> > > pico or other text editors. But they do NOT have that access.
> > > See for yourself:
> > >
> > > 4 -r-xr-xr-x  1 guests   topics       3728 Aug 21 13:12
> > index.html*
> > >
> > >    The ONLY way that the home page can be updated is by using
> > > rwrap. You are misleading everyone when you say this is
> > > optional.
> > >
> > >    It is also now required by policy to use rwrap. I asked the
> > > acting Executive Director on Thursday, "Will you remove rwrap so
> > > that Patrick can update the home page?" The answer was "no."
> > >
> > >    Because Patrick couldn't FTP the home page file last week
> > > (because of the no-write permissions that block FTP), he asked
> > > me for help with rwrap, which I tried to give him based on my
> > > recollection of an earlier version of rwrap, but it wasn't
> > > enough to get the page up. The page still isn't up. And this is
> > > the actual, truthful reason. That is the answer to the question
> > > that the three volunteers - Irene, Lee and Elaine - asked on
> > > this list.
> > >
> > >    Communicating with ourselves, and with all the volunteers, is
> > > vitally important, and it can't be left to the PR efforts of
> > > only a few people in top positions. You and I both were confused
> > > about this, because of the lack of forthright communications
> > > with volunteers about the situation. Content is being sacrificed
> > > because technical considerations like this are being placed
> > > first by a leadership with a too-stubborn technical focus. And
> > > this is the future of SCN's site, and of SCN itself, before our
> > > eyes.
> > >
> > > Rod Clark
> > >
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