SCN: Update: SCN site redesign link

[Lorraine Pozzi]

On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Doug Schuler wrote:
> 
> Hi, Patrick and everybody else...
> 
> You won't be surprised (I guess) to learn that I don't like
> the new logos.   I vote for a cleaned up version of the
> logo we've always had.  I don't see any need for a new one and
> I'm not clear as to who authorized this in the first place.

Doug will be surprised to find that I agree with him.  

I didn't like the logo at first.  As a logo, it still lacks
"finish" - but is that what SCN is about?  Slick marketing?
I think we are better served by something that looks a little
handmade.  And now that it's been around for years and years,
it has taken on an identity that the suggested versions 
certainly lack.  Largely thanks to Doug, it has traveled
around the world and appears on t-shirts, publicatoins, and
of course has been an identifier for our very own Web
presence.

I understand that some funders find it too quaint - but I think
that the major objections that funders have is not with a 
logo but with more substantive matters - such as, how does 
the organization serve the community?  What data can you provide
that shows some significant benefit to your users? 

And finally - I don't see anything in the suggested "improvements"
that is so eye-catching and significant that an "upgrade" is
desirable.

My $.01 worth.

Lorraine Pozzi
femme2 at scn.org
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> 
> I don't like to criticize this generous
> pro bono work but I suppose it's necessary.  The first one 
> -- computers -- is generic and I don't like the color
> scheme.  On my computer the computers and the label
> aren't centered (but that is minor).  The second one looks
> like a warmed-over version of the city of Seattle's logo.
> The third I like because there is some funk in it and
> it hearkens to what I thought was our logo.  I'd like to
> include the categories that we use instead of what
> was used in this version.  I wouldn't want to use this
> *instead* of our current one; but as a supplement.
> 
> I don't like the block letter version, simple or not.  WHY
> change to *that*???  
> 
> What's wrong with the original logo?  Yes, it's fuzzy, etc. so 
> let's clean it up.  Is that so difficult??
> 
> The statement on the studio30 web page is curious: "Native American
> leaning on a sand dune, holding a palm tree is the consensus."  
> Consensus??  Among whom?  (consensus means that *everybody* agreed so I
> was wondering a bit where this info came from)
> 
> And -- IO hate to be so critical but I find it hard to read the
> new "basic buttons."
> 
> I question why this was even undertaken at all when there are so many
> other crucial issues with SCN.
> 
> -- Doug
> 
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> On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, patrick fisher wrote:
> 
> > Folks,
> > 
> > This past fall and winter, I worked with a web designer to come up
> > with a new look for SCN. I provided an idea for a style that was
> > simple and we used a couple of other sites as examples for what we
> > were looking for in a look for SCN. I'll reserve judgement on the
> > site which is located at:
> > 
> > http://www.studio30.com/scn/scn_faq.html
> > 
> > In that time, an SCN volunteer came up with a site design based on
> > the same parameters as those given to the web designer. This design
> > is right on the mark with what we were looking for. It is not
> > necessarily in its final form, but represents, as close as possible,
> > a direction we aimed for. This site is located at:
> > 
> > http://www.scn.org/~lee/scntesta.html
> > 
> > If you have comments, please direct them to webeditors at scn.org. We
> > will be discussing the site redesign at the general meeting on
> > Wednesday as well. I will have printouts available of both sites up
> > for consideration.
> > 
> > Also, logos have not be finalized in any way. Your comments on the
> > logo ideas are welcome. The logo on the second site were designed by
> > a graphics designer I found, enlisted, and worked with to come up
> > with logo ideas.
> > 
> > Thanks much,
> > Patrick
> > 
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> > http://www.scn.org
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