SCN: Update: SCN site redesign link

patrick fisher clariun at yahoo.com
Wed Feb 27 16:51:43 PST 2002 

I still agree with cleaning up the current logo and remaining fairly
close to the current one.

But I am not a graphics designer and have no gift for this kind of
art.

If you know of someone who can do the work, please let me know.

Patrick


--- Lorraine Pozzi <femme2 at scn.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Doug Schuler wrote:
> > 
> > Hi, Patrick and everybody else...
> > 
> > You won't be surprised (I guess) to learn that I don't like
> > the new logos.   I vote for a cleaned up version of the
> > logo we've always had.  I don't see any need for a new one and
> > I'm not clear as to who authorized this in the first place.
> 
> Doug will be surprised to find that I agree with him.  
> 
> I didn't like the logo at first.  As a logo, it still lacks
> "finish" - but is that what SCN is about?  Slick marketing?
> I think we are better served by something that looks a little
> handmade.  And now that it's been around for years and years,
> it has taken on an identity that the suggested versions 
> certainly lack.  Largely thanks to Doug, it has traveled
> around the world and appears on t-shirts, publicatoins, and
> of course has been an identifier for our very own Web
> presence.
> 
> I understand that some funders find it too quaint - but I think
> that the major objections that funders have is not with a 
> logo but with more substantive matters - such as, how does 
> the organization serve the community?  What data can you provide
> that shows some significant benefit to your users? 
> 
> And finally - I don't see anything in the suggested "improvements"
> that is so eye-catching and significant that an "upgrade" is
> desirable.
> 
> My $.01 worth.
> 
> Lorraine Pozzi
> femme2 at scn.org
> ===============================
> 
> 
> > 
> > I don't like to criticize this generous
> > pro bono work but I suppose it's necessary.  The first one 
> > -- computers -- is generic and I don't like the color
> > scheme.  On my computer the computers and the label
> > aren't centered (but that is minor).  The second one looks
> > like a warmed-over version of the city of Seattle's logo.
> > The third I like because there is some funk in it and
> > it hearkens to what I thought was our logo.  I'd like to
> > include the categories that we use instead of what
> > was used in this version.  I wouldn't want to use this
> > *instead* of our current one; but as a supplement.
> > 
> > I don't like the block letter version, simple or not.  WHY
> > change to *that*???  
> > 
> > What's wrong with the original logo?  Yes, it's fuzzy, etc. so 
> > let's clean it up.  Is that so difficult??
> > 
> > The statement on the studio30 web page is curious: "Native
> American
> > leaning on a sand dune, holding a palm tree is the consensus."  
> > Consensus??  Among whom?  (consensus means that *everybody*
> agreed so I
> > was wondering a bit where this info came from)
> > 
> > And -- IO hate to be so critical but I find it hard to read the
> > new "basic buttons."
> > 
> > I question why this was even undertaken at all when there are so
> many
> > other crucial issues with SCN.
> > 
> > -- Doug
> > 
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> > 
> > On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, patrick fisher wrote:
> > 
> > > Folks,
> > > 
> > > This past fall and winter, I worked with a web designer to come
> up
> > > with a new look for SCN. I provided an idea for a style that
> was
> > > simple and we used a couple of other sites as examples for what
> we
> > > were looking for in a look for SCN. I'll reserve judgement on
> the
> > > site which is located at:
> > > 
> > > http://www.studio30.com/scn/scn_faq.html
> > > 
> > > In that time, an SCN volunteer came up with a site design based
> on
> > > the same parameters as those given to the web designer. This
> design
> > > is right on the mark with what we were looking for. It is not
> > > necessarily in its final form, but represents, as close as
> possible,
> > > a direction we aimed for. This site is located at:
> > > 
> > > http://www.scn.org/~lee/scntesta.html
> > > 
> > > If you have comments, please direct them to webeditors at scn.org.
> We
> > > will be discussing the site redesign at the general meeting on
> > > Wednesday as well. I will have printouts available of both
> sites up
> > > for consideration.
> > > 
> > > Also, logos have not be finalized in any way. Your comments on
> the
> > > logo ideas are welcome. The logo on the second site were
> designed by
> > > a graphics designer I found, enlisted, and worked with to come
> up
> > > with logo ideas.
> > > 
> > > Thanks much,
> > > Patrick
> > > 
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