BD: Re: SCN: "Free-Nets" in Los Angeles Times

patrick clariun at yahoo.com
Thu Jan 17 09:40:48 PST 2002


Marilyn,

That is a great idea. I had thought of putting together resources for
people on SCN, but where do you start? This task was on the burner
before Christmas, but went to the backburner.

Steve seems to imply that he knows where these inexpensive services
are.

Patrick

--- Marilyn Sheck <Marilyn.Sheck at spl.org> wrote:
> Here's a list of the providers in the 206 area code:
>  
> http://thelist.internet.com/areacode/206/
> 
> >>> jmabel at speakeasy.org 01/17/02 04:22AM >>>
> Pulling back to where the discussion was approximately a month ago,
> and ignoring 
> a lot of sniping since, couldn't we fulfill a lot of this need by
> posting 
> prominently a list of free and inexpensive computing resources in
> the Seattle 
> area? 
> 
> SCN doesn't need to PROVIDE services that are already out there. We
> just need to 
> tell people how to find them.
> 
> --------------------
> Joe Mabel
> 
> On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Steve Guest wrote:
> 
> > Patrick
> > Agreed - low cost affordable internet access would be great.  In
> fact,in
> > the WA area we are lucky we still have a few options for free
> service.
> > They are going fast.  The options are NetZero/Juno which have a
> 10 hour
> > per month free but you must click some ads to stay alive.  Then
> we have
> > dotnow, address, massmednet and qualguard offering variations on
> the free
> > service theme.  Then finally we have NoCharge which is still here
> in WA
> > alive and kicking, but all its other operations seem to have shut
> down for
> > one reason or another.  Lastly nopay, who were the other free WA
> ISP, seem
> > to have stopped their free service without an announcement.  The
> web site
> > is there, but nothing about the access.
> > 
> > If you want better service we have accesscheap at $60 a year and
> 17 others
> > at under $100 a year.  The challenge is that we, SCN, should not
> be seen
> > to push one service over any other.  Apart from the possible
> liability
> > issues, we cannot and must guarentee thrid party connections.
> > 
> > It depends what you are willing to put up with.  Most of these
> have banner
> > or pop ads, no matter what the fee size and structure.
> > 
> > Steve
> > 
> > On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, patrick wrote:
> > 
> > > I think the point I had was low-cost internet service.
> Affordable
> > > internet service.
> > >
> > > Not that I think SCN should go there. If it did, that would be
> nice,
> > > but that would be a long way off anyway.
> > >
> > > It would be nice if Seattle had a non-profit internet service.
> In the
> > > sense that it was paid for by the local community, users, and
> not
> > > developed to make lots of money.
> > >
> > > Affordable internet service is an issue, not computers.
> Computers aer
> > > cheap, free, but service to the internet is not free, nor is it
> > > cheap.
> > >
> > > Unless you go to the library and use it for free.
> > >
> > > Having internet service for $104 a year would really put it
> within
> > > the reach of a lot of people. Currently, at $20 a month, it's a
> bit
> > > expensive.
> > >
> > > Patrick
> > <snip>
> > 
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