BD: Re: SCN: "Free-Nets" in Los Angeles Times

[Lorraine Pozzi]

You could start with David Keyes at the City of Seattle,
a map of such resources was created prior to a community 
computer fair a while ago - whether it's been updated I do
not know.  IndyMedia folks are also collecting information.
The Neighborhood Networks folks - what they are called now 
escapes me - also had a list of resources.  

SCN could provide a database and map where up-to-date info
was readily accessible.  Links to the various locations.
Maybe graphics to show if the site offered classes, was not
open to the public (some low-income housing, for example).

Mapping resources has been done since the very early days of 
SCN - too bad the efforts never were put into a format 
accessible to the public - and maintained.

Lorraine
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On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, patrick wrote:

> Marilyn,
> 
> That is a great idea. I had thought of putting together resources for
> people on SCN, but where do you start? This task was on the burner
> before Christmas, but went to the backburner.
> 
> Steve seems to imply that he knows where these inexpensive services
> are.
> 
> Patrick
> 
> --- Marilyn Sheck <Marilyn.Sheck at spl.org> wrote:
> > Here's a list of the providers in the 206 area code:
> >  
> > http://thelist.internet.com/areacode/206/
> > 
> > >>> jmabel at speakeasy.org 01/17/02 04:22AM >>>
> > Pulling back to where the discussion was approximately a month ago,
> > and ignoring 
> > a lot of sniping since, couldn't we fulfill a lot of this need by
> > posting 
> > prominently a list of free and inexpensive computing resources in
> > the Seattle 
> > area? 
> > 
> > SCN doesn't need to PROVIDE services that are already out there. We
> > just need to 
> > tell people how to find them.
> > 
> > --------------------
> > Joe Mabel
> > 
> > On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Steve Guest wrote:
> > 
> > > Patrick
> > > Agreed - low cost affordable internet access would be great.  In
> > fact,in
> > > the WA area we are lucky we still have a few options for free
> > service.
> > > They are going fast.  The options are NetZero/Juno which have a
> > 10 hour
> > > per month free but you must click some ads to stay alive.  Then
> > we have
> > > dotnow, address, massmednet and qualguard offering variations on
> > the free
> > > service theme.  Then finally we have NoCharge which is still here
> > in WA
> > > alive and kicking, but all its other operations seem to have shut
> > down for
> > > one reason or another.  Lastly nopay, who were the other free WA
> > ISP, seem
> > > to have stopped their free service without an announcement.  The
> > web site
> > > is there, but nothing about the access.
> > > 
> > > If you want better service we have accesscheap at $60 a year and
> > 17 others
> > > at under $100 a year.  The challenge is that we, SCN, should not
> > be seen
> > > to push one service over any other.  Apart from the possible
> > liability
> > > issues, we cannot and must guarentee thrid party connections.
> > > 
> > > It depends what you are willing to put up with.  Most of these
> > have banner
> > > or pop ads, no matter what the fee size and structure.
> > > 
> > > Steve
> > > 
> > > On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, patrick wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I think the point I had was low-cost internet service.
> > Affordable
> > > > internet service.
> > > >
> > > > Not that I think SCN should go there. If it did, that would be
> > nice,
> > > > but that would be a long way off anyway.
> > > >
> > > > It would be nice if Seattle had a non-profit internet service.
> > In the
> > > > sense that it was paid for by the local community, users, and
> > not
> > > > developed to make lots of money.
> > > >
> > > > Affordable internet service is an issue, not computers.
> > Computers aer
> > > > cheap, free, but service to the internet is not free, nor is it
> > > > cheap.
> > > >
> > > > Unless you go to the library and use it for free.
> > > >
> > > > Having internet service for $104 a year would really put it
> > within
> > > > the reach of a lot of people. Currently, at $20 a month, it's a
> > bit
> > > > expensive.
> > > >
> > > > Patrick
> > > <snip>
> > > 
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