SCN: logo ideas
patrick fisher
clariun at yahoo.com
Wed Mar 6 10:30:35 PST 2002
I see "Powering our Communities with Technology" to mean that communities, groups
can use SCN to have a web site to broadcast information about themselves via a media
that is accessible to all. That is my take on it.
Second, please, please tell me what needs to be fixed with SCN. From your point. I
have asked. And what is it that us web update people can do to fix it? I don't do
hardware. I don't do software. A few of us topic editors who update the pages are
good at what they do and are not hardware/software people. If the problem lies
there, what is it that we can do when we do not have those skills? Please tell me.
There are other more pressing problems. Do all of the volunteers jump in and work
only on those items and ignore everything else?
What is wrong with fixing up a car by having a few people working on the engine and
a few painting and detailing? Should we all be working on the engine? Please tell
me, I'd like to know.
And if the site looks great and updated, will that not bring in more donations?
Leaving the front end in neglect while working on the engine only will be our
savior?
Mainly, many people have said that there are more pressing issues for SCN. HOwever,
no one has mentioned specifically what those things are.
Also, to reiterate, an organization putting a web site up for free on SCN, void of
ads, is in my opinion, "Powering our communities with technology". Maybe it isn't
the total answer, but I think SCN does a great job at what it can do.
Off my soapbox,
Patrick
--- Terry Trimingham <ttrim at scn.org> wrote:
>
>
> I agree with Doug on this one.
>
> SCN was created to allow all people access to technology. "Democratic
> technology for all." It is still true, we still allow the have-nots access
> to the internet.
>
> On the other hand, we are archaic, klunky, and hard to use compared to
> most technology available today. "Powering our communities with
> technology" implies that we have something slick to offer, and we don't. I
> think it is VERY misleading to use this phrase as our slogan.
>
> And, I agree with Joe. There are so many other things wrong with SCN than
> the logo and the slogan, it would be better to focus on those things,
> rather than try to "fix" something that hasn't yet broken.
>
> Terry
>
>
>
> On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Doug Schuler wrote:
>
> >
> > I don't like the logo change idea and I don't like the
> > slogan change idea.
> >
> > "Democratic Technology for all" is more inclusive and broad.
> >
> > "Powering our communities with technology" is technocratic.
> >
> > I would think that we'd rather put the emphasis on DEMOCRACY
> > not on TECHNOLOGY.
> >
> > Can somebody remind me why this is happening?
> >
> > -- Doug
> >
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> >
> > On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, patrick fisher wrote:
> >
> > > Joe,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the comments. The logo issue is out of my hands, as far as I know.
> > >
> > > There will be a different slogan. I think it is: Powering Our Communities with
> > > Technology.
> > >
> > > It would be nice, as you say, to have different variations of the logos for
> > > different uses.
> > >
> > > I will put the PDF up on a web page. I will have to take a screen sshot and
> past it
> > > as an image, though.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Patrick
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Joe Mabel <jmabel at speakeasy.org> wrote:
> > > > Any logo with relatively small letters in the design (e.g. the "democratic
> > > > technology for all" writtenrat the bottom) is liable to scale down badly.
> > > > Before adopting it, we should play with how it scales down and consider
> whether
> > > > it will be acceptable at the smallsst size we intend to use.
> > > >
> > > > One standard solution to this is to adopt several variations of a logo 3-5
> > > > different sizes, possibly a color and a B&W version at each size. Major
> graphic
> > > > elements should stay the same, but details may vary: for example, text might
> not
> > > > be exactly proportional at the different sizes, to improve readability.
> > > >
> > > > In any event, rather than sending candidate logos out by PDF through email,
> > > > can't we please post them on SCN itself somewhere & have one central place
> > > > people can look at the possibiities?
> > > >
> > > > That said, I do sense a bit af rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic here:
> > > > Except for people who have no other SCN activities they can contribute to,
> this
> > > > seems like a pretty low-return use of volunteer time. I would not put a new
>
> > > > logo among SCN's 50 greatest needs at the moment.
> > > >
> > > > --------------------
> > > > Joe Mabel
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, patrick fisher wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Here are some logo ideas in PDF format.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please make specific, exact comments on what you like or do not like
> > > > > about the logos.
> > > > >
> > > > > Everyone's comments will be taken into consideration.
> > > > >
> > > > > If PDF does not work for you, please let me know and I will work
> > > > > something out.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > Patrick
> > > > >
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