SCN: Re: RE: SCNA kaput -- irrevocably?

Randy Groves randomgrace at gmail.com
Thu Jun 30 12:32:18 PDT 2011


I was a bit curious that Joel, Alan, and Ti were not included in the e-mail,
but forwarded it to them as soon as I saw it.

I think that it is a little early to start dancing on SCN's grave.

-randy

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Steve Guest <steve at steve-guest.com> wrote:

> Hi Lois
> Having officially resigned from the SCNA board about 3 years ago I cannot
> tell you the current situation.  I do not see Joel or Ti listed in this
> email and they were still board members when I resigned.
>
> As for the disposal of the SCNA assets and funds the articles of
> incorporation, the constitution and the by-laws where appropriate were all
> very clear - these must all go to CPSR.  Having tried to change a small
> aspect of these by-laws to give the board the ability to perform a required
> and expected management function - and failing - I would expect these asset
> and fund dispersal requirements have not changed.  Therefore they cannot
> simply be transferred to another non-profit.
>
> The ACLU attorney who setup the rules did a great job.  I had discussions
> with four attorneys on ways to change these documents, including the one
> who
> did the original work.  There are copies of the documents on the web site
> should you need them.  I would have your own legal counsel look at these.
>
> Steve
>
> Dr. Steve Guest
> 206-364-5636
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-scn at scn.org [mailto:owner-scn at scn.org] On Behalf Of
> ljbeedle at scn.org
> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:34 AM
> To: douglas at publicsphereproject.org; randomgrace at gmail.com;
> alboss at sisypheans.org; al.boss at metrokc.gov; kgillgren at igc.org; jj at scn.org;
> scn at scn.org; douglas at cpsr.org; steve at advocate.net; jmabel at speakeasy.org;
> jimh at scn.org; bb615 at scn.org; anamioka at gmail.com
> Subject: SCN: RE: SCNA kaput -- irrevocably?
>
> I would hate to see SCN die totally.  I am not sure how many active users
> we still have but I do have 4 non profits with directories on SCN that I
> keep up.  I also still try to keep up the Spirituality menu.
>
> What would it mean to our users if your group took over Doug?
>
> What does the SCN Constitution and By-laws say about the disposition of
> assets if we were to dissolve SCN?
>
> Having gone though this with a church I do know that not much is required
> to reactive except for filing an up to date Constitution and By-laws and
> the fee.  At least that was all we had to do for the church.
>
> Is there anyone left who can call a meeting of the members to approve any
> actions?
>
> Lois
>
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Douglas Schuler douglas at publicsphereproject.org
> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 21:07:36 -0700
> To: randomgrace at gmail.com, alboss at sisypheans.org, al.boss at metrokc.gov,
> kgillgren at igc.org, jj at scn.org, scn at scn.org, douglas at cpsr.org,
> steve at advocate.net, jmabel at speakeasy.org, jimh at scn.org, ljbeedle at scn.org,
> bb615 at scn.org, anamioka at gmail.com
> Subject: SCNA kaput -- irrevocably?
>
>
>
> After 10 years or so of inaction it looks like the SCN board finally
> ceased re-upping with the secretary of state.
>
> I'm guessing that it would still be possible to re-initiate the
> organization if  anybody wanted to.  I'd be willing for the Public
> Sphere Project (a non-profit,  501.c.3 organization) to  absorb the
> assets (probably just the machine) to continue the operation of the
> machine.  I  think that my students could  take  some  degree of
> custodianship over  the machine as part of their civic  intelligence
> work.
>
> -- Doug
>
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