SCN: Re: RE: SCNA kaput -- irrevocably?

Fri Jul 1 23:57:01 PDT 2011

Folks,
I agree --- I would not assume that SCNA is dead.  In fact, it is very much alive.
As President, I am taking the necessary steps to reinstate our registration with the Secretary of State.
SCNA does have many key resources: we have a treasury, we have a few volunteers (including voicemail people), we have a very stable and solid SCN system, we have many loyal supporters, we have a viable Computer Giveaway program, and we have four dedicated Board members who meet every month.  We are paying our bills and serving users.
HOWEVER
We need more volunteers!
We have an exciting new direction in the area of Wikis for community use.We have the hardware to implement it, and we have a rough design -- but we need people to do it.   We also need a Webmaster and staff to sustain our existing Web, and develop/procure tools that make it easier for info providers to use.
I am very pleased to see a resurgence of interest.  I am sure that this is what SCNA needs.

Regards,          -Joel.

Joel Ware, IV 
President, Seattle Community Network AssociationEmail: joelware at yahoo.com 
Phone: (206) 250-5950 (mobile)   

--- On Thu, 6/30/11, Randy Groves <randomgrace at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Randy Groves <randomgrace at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: RE: SCNA kaput -- irrevocably?
To: "Steve Guest" <steve at steve-guest.com>
Cc: ljbeedle at scn.org, douglas at publicsphereproject.org, alboss at sisypheans.org, al.boss at metrokc.gov, kgillgren at igc.org, jj at scn.org, scn at scn.org, douglas at cpsr.org, steve at advocate.net, jmabel at speakeasy.org, jimh at scn.org, bb615 at scn.org, anamioka at gmail.com, "Joel Ware, IV" <jw4 at scn.org>, "Joel Ware, IV" <joelware at yahoo.com>, "Ti Locke-Computer Giveaway" <tgreyraven at yahoo.com>
Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011, 12:32 PM

I was a bit curious that Joel, Alan, and Ti were not included in the e-mail, but forwarded it to them as soon as I saw it.

I think that it is a little early to start dancing on SCN's grave.

-randy

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Steve Guest <steve at steve-guest.com> wrote:

Hi Lois

Having officially resigned from the SCNA board about 3 years ago I cannot

tell you the current situation.  I do not see Joel or Ti listed in this

email and they were still board members when I resigned.

As for the disposal of the SCNA assets and funds the articles of

incorporation, the constitution and the by-laws where appropriate were all

very clear - these must all go to CPSR.  Having tried to change a small

aspect of these by-laws to give the board the ability to perform a required

and expected management function - and failing - I would expect these asset

and fund dispersal requirements have not changed.  Therefore they cannot

simply be transferred to another non-profit.

The ACLU attorney who setup the rules did a great job.  I had discussions

with four attorneys on ways to change these documents, including the one who

did the original work.  There are copies of the documents on the web site

should you need them.  I would have your own legal counsel look at these.

Steve

Dr. Steve Guest

206-364-5636

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From: owner-scn at scn.org [mailto:owner-scn at scn.org] On Behalf Of

ljbeedle at scn.org

Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 2:34 AM

To: douglas at publicsphereproject.org; randomgrace at gmail.com;

alboss at sisypheans.org; al.boss at metrokc.gov; kgillgren at igc.org; jj at scn.org;

scn at scn.org; douglas at cpsr.org; steve at advocate.net; jmabel at speakeasy.org;

jimh at scn.org; bb615 at scn.org; anamioka at gmail.com

Subject: SCN: RE: SCNA kaput -- irrevocably?

I would hate to see SCN die totally.  I am not sure how many active users

we still have but I do have 4 non profits with directories on SCN that I

keep up.  I also still try to keep up the Spirituality menu.

What would it mean to our users if your group took over Doug?

What does the SCN Constitution and By-laws say about the disposition of

assets if we were to dissolve SCN?

Having gone though this with a church I do know that not much is required

to reactive except for filing an up to date Constitution and By-laws and

the fee.  At least that was all we had to do for the church.

Is there anyone left who can call a meeting of the members to approve any

actions?

Lois

Original Message:

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From: Douglas Schuler douglas at publicsphereproject.org

Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 21:07:36 -0700

To: randomgrace at gmail.com, alboss at sisypheans.org, al.boss at metrokc.gov,

kgillgren at igc.org, jj at scn.org, scn at scn.org, douglas at cpsr.org,

steve at advocate.net, jmabel at speakeasy.org, jimh at scn.org, ljbeedle at scn.org,

bb615 at scn.org, anamioka at gmail.com

Subject: SCNA kaput -- irrevocably?

After 10 years or so of inaction it looks like the SCN board finally

ceased re-upping with the secretary of state.

I'm guessing that it would still be possible to re-initiate the

organization if  anybody wanted to.  I'd be willing for the Public

Sphere Project (a non-profit,  501.c.3 organization) to  absorb the

assets (probably just the machine) to continue the operation of the

machine.  I  think that my students could  take  some  degree of

custodianship over  the machine as part of their civic  intelligence

work.

-- Doug

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