SCN: scn2 list or this one?

Fri Jun 22 10:01:55 PDT 2012

i like that doug!

it brings to mind - varying levels of commitment/membership...

anyone with an email or website - has an automatic stake - allow them to
opt in on updates - several times a year (everyone has email overload!)

just by having some level of information - without pressure - never know
when someone might find a place to lend a hand.

example:
for a number of years i was considered an active volunteer at XXX.  mostly
hung out - and just talked to visitors.  just by being there i learned, and
occasionally i found other ways i could help out. as that situation ended,
i could always go back to just hanging out and talking to visitors.

then - change in the board and management - need to focus on $$$

just hanging out and talking with visitors was suddenly not good enough . .
. i left!  we both lost out!

re: scn - by having the chance to just know what's happening - and maybe
the opportunity for feedback and run ideas - could enlist a greater sense
of purpose for scn for more people ???

just thinking outloud...

v

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Randy Groves <randomgrace at gmail.com> wrote:

> There's another meeting tentatively scheduled for the 14th (I believe Alan
> has made the reservation - and changed the main SCN page), so I'm going to
> be sending out another announcement probably tomorrow.  Both Alan and Joel
> made notes - possibly others did as well - but at least the collected notes
> should also be part of that announcement.
>
> -randy
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Doug Schuler <
> douglas at publicsphereproject.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks, Randy.
>>
>> Yes, that is my recommendation. I thought it was a good idea to invite
>> everybody and it seems like the right thing to do now to let them know what
>> happened at the meeting. (I don't mind the fact that it takes the machine a
>> day or more -- I hope it doesn't require that kind of attention from you or
>> any other human!)
>>
>> And while I don't think we should send notes to the whole list all the
>> time I strongly believe that the SCN community should receive updates
>> several times a year. To my mind this would be necessary part of any
>> rebuilding effort.
>>
>> I'd be happy to draft, review, or contribute to the note.  Let me know!
>>
>> -- Doug
>>
>>
>> On Jun 21, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Randy Groves wrote:
>>
>> So you're saying send out a report to all the users of SCN?  That's who
>> was invited.  Not saying that we should or shouldn't, but just be aware
>> that sending to all the users of SCN takes a day or more - if we do it in a
>> way that doesn't bring the system to its knees.
>>
>> -randy
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Doug Schuler <
>> douglas at publicsphereproject.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I think that Joe's right. Let's use the existing list.
>>>
>>> What I'd like to see is a brief report on the meeting sent to everybody
>>> who
>>> was invited to the meeting in the first place.
>>>
>>> That way the invitees would get some information about the project.
>>> They'd
>>> get a little closure on the fact that we actually had a meeting and that
>>> there
>>> is a feeling that we can move forward.
>>>
>>> I think the note should also extend an invitation to everybody to join
>>> the
>>> scn list so they could hear about what ideas we have and how they
>>> could participate more if they choose to.
>>>
>>> It also should contain information on how one becomes an SCN member.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> On Jun 21, 2012, at 8:54 AM, jmabel wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, it sounds reasonable. And, as I've said already, it seems to me to
>>> make
>>> more sense to use the exisiting list, because it's hard for me to
>>> imagine that
>>> anyone interested in the future/survival of SCN/SCNA would not want to
>>> at least
>>> observe this discussion, and equally hard to imagine why anyone *not*
>>> interested
>>> in that would be on scn at scn.org.
>>>
>>> --------------------
>>> Joe Mabel
>>>
>>> On Thu, 21 Jun 2012, Randy Groves wrote:
>>>
>>> You should have all received an invitation to join a new list called
>>> scn2.
>>>
>>> The intent of creating a new list was to give all of those on this list a
>>>
>>> chance to opt in to a new discussion.  And it was also a vehicle to
>>> include
>>>
>>> folks who aren't presently on the scn list (for whatever reason).  Also -
>>>
>>> the scn2 list is being run on Mailman, which is more dependable, on a
>>>
>>> different machine than, and has better mail list management software than
>>>
>>> the scn list on Majordomo.
>>>
>>>
>>> But as Joe Mabel noted - why not just use the scn list?
>>>
>>>
>>> Fair enough - the other options would have been to canvas this list and
>>> get
>>>
>>> a vote, or just start using this list, and too bad for the folks who
>>> don't
>>>
>>> want to participate.  I don't like the second option, but the first
>>>
>>> certainly has merit.
>>>
>>>
>>> So - who on this list thinks that whatever discussions and planning we
>>> have
>>>
>>> about the future of SCN/SCNA should be held on this list?  Please let me
>>>
>>> know by next Thursday (the28th).  If we have a majority that think this
>>> is
>>>
>>> the venue, I'll invite those that requested to be on a new list to the
>>> scn
>>>
>>> list.
>>>
>>>
>>> Does this sound like a reasonable course of action?
>>>
>>>
>>> -randy
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>
>>  Douglas Schuler
>> douglas at publicsphereproject.org
>>
>>
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