SCN: Re: Meeting Notes

Doug Schuler douglas at publicsphereproject.org
Fri Jun 22 18:13:12 PDT 2012 

Speaking of that it jogged my memory that Jean Buskin
made the very relevant point that there are still very 
important issues around privacy and other computer
related concerns. These haven't gone away!! And this
is embodied in the principles we adopted early on.

One suggestion that I made was that I'd like to ask
people where did all the community networks go. My 
hypothesis is that community networking is still going 
on, while "traditional" community networks are not as 
popular as they once were. It would be interesting to 
see what happened to these, circa 1995, community 
networks: http://www.scn.org/commnet/appC.htm

-- Doug


On Jun 22, 2012, at 9:28 AM, ljbeedle at scn.org wrote:

> I realize that there may not have been official minutes
> (though I would think there would be) but meeting notes of
> some sort should be posted on the website for all SCN folks
> to see.  Another way of keeping them informed and a
> reminder that SCN is still alive.
> 
> Lois
> 
>> 
>> Thanks, Randy.
>> 
>> Yes, that is my recommendation. I thought it was a good
> idea to invite
>> everybody and it seems like the right thing to do now to
> let them know
>> what happened at the meeting. (I don't mind the fact that
> it takes the
>> machine a day or more -- I hope it doesn't require that
> kind of
>> attention from you or any other human!) 
>> 
>> And while I don't think we should send notes to the whole
> list all the
>> time I strongly believe that the SCN community should
> receive updates
>> several times a year. To my mind this would be necessary
> part of any
>> rebuilding effort.  
>> 
>> I'd be happy to draft, review, or contribute to the note.
> Let me know! 
>> 
>> 
>> -- Doug
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 21, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Randy Groves wrote:
>> 
>>> So you're saying send out a report to all the users of
> SCN?  That's
>> who was invited.  Not saying that we should or shouldn't,
> but just be
>> aware that sending to all the users of SCN takes a day or
> more - if we
>> do it in a way that doesn't bring the system to its knees.
>>> 
>>> -randy
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Doug Schuler
>> <douglas at publicsphereproject.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think that Joe's right. Let's use the existing list.
>>> 
>>> What I'd like to see is a brief report on the meeting
> sent to
>> everybody who 
>>> was invited to the meeting in the first place. 
>>> 
>>> That way the invitees would get some information about
> the project.
>> They'd
>>> get a little closure on the fact that we actually had a
> meeting and
>> that there 
>>> is a feeling that we can move forward.
>>> 
>>> I think the note should also extend an invitation to
> everybody to join
>> the 
>>> scn list so they could hear about what ideas we have
> and how they
>>> could participate more if they choose to.
>>> 
>>> It also should contain information on how one becomes
> an SCN member.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> On Jun 21, 2012, at 8:54 AM, jmabel wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yes, it sounds reasonable. And, as I've said already,
> it seems to me
>> to make
>>>> more sense to use the exisiting list, because it's
> hard for me to
>> imagine that
>>>> anyone interested in the future/survival of SCN/SCNA
> would not want
>> to at least
>>>> observe this discussion, and equally hard to imagine
> why anyone *not*
>> interested
>>>> in that would be on scn at scn.org.
>>>> 
>>>> --------------------
>>>> Joe Mabel
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, 21 Jun 2012, Randy Groves wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> You should have all received an invitation to join a
> new list called
>> scn2.
>>>>> The intent of creating a new list was to give all of
> those on this
>> list a
>>>>> chance to opt in to a new discussion.  And it was
> also a vehicle to
>> include
>>>>> folks who aren't presently on the scn list (for
> whatever reason). 
>> Also -
>>>>> the scn2 list is being run on Mailman, which is more
> dependable, on
>> a
>>>>> different machine than, and has better mail list
> management software
>> than
>>>>> the scn list on Majordomo.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But as Joe Mabel noted - why not just use the scn list?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Fair enough - the other options would have been to
> canvas this list
>> and get
>>>>> a vote, or just start using this list, and too bad
> for the folks who
>> don't
>>>>> want to participate.  I don't like the second option,
> but the first
>>>>> certainly has merit.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So - who on this list thinks that whatever
> discussions and planning
>> we have
>>>>> about the future of SCN/SCNA should be held on this
> list?  Please
>> let me
>>>>> know by next Thursday (the28th).  If we have a
> majority that think
>> this is
>>>>> the venue, I'll invite those that requested to be on
> a new list to
>> the scn
>>>>> list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does this sound like a reasonable course of action?
>>>>> 
>>>>> -randy
>>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
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